Tropheus Tank setup questions - 65 gallon 36"x18"x25"

[oneoffcustom]

First off i will introduce myself, my name is nick and joined the tropheus club a while back. When i fist got into tropheus i started out with some chimba reds i picked up off a dude named willie, then added in some red rainbows and some moops. I am still very new to the tropheus though i had great success with the chimbas. Due to my cousin i sold off my colony and began reefing. I kept several reef tanks successfuly, and then lost an entire tank (thousands in corals and fish). I since then have set my sights back to fresh water, and started out with flowerhorns of wich now live in my pond. I currently have three dovii, but am itching to get my hands on some tropheus.

Now if your still here with me, i have some questions. I have a 65 gallon tank 18x36x25, and am wondering what i might be able to keep. I am not opposed to upgrading later as i am looking for fry to start out with. My filtration on tank is 2x emporer 400, and a ehiem 2036. My question's are:

1. What would be a good number for this tank size?
2. Is my filtration adequate?
3. Does anyone have fry of the following, birchardi ujiji, moops, rainbows (any color), gold kazumbas?
4. Would a pair of birchardi's hurt to be in tank, also shell dwellers, and calvus?

I have been lurking on here for a while and i am very impressed with the comrodary and usefull tips and fry list. Please take the time to school this newb and help me get back in the game.

[oneoffcustom]

Dang no advice... SSSprelude answered the first two questions, but what about the tankmates. I am more prone to the shell dwellers. I might add to that i am a religiouse water changer...

[ssrprelude]

Geoff may be able to help you on Ujiji. Moops, wait a few weeks. Troph fry can't really defend themselves I would keep them all alone.

[fshfrk]

1. 25-30 fry.
2. Nope you need a w/d
3. moops in a month
4. trophs only

[oneoffcustom]

Thanks for the replys guys...

If i did 20 or so, what would you suggest time wise to upgrade, obviously they wouldnt last for ever in a 65. Also i was reading in some older posts that you make wet drys. Would it be possible to section off a smaller tank to make one. I dont have a whole lot of room under the stand, was thinking maybe a 10 or regular 20g. Would that work and also at that point could i do away with the emp. 400's to allow the overflow box on tank?

[geoff_tropheus]

I would not keep Tropheus in 36" length tank for any real length of time unless they were fry/juvinile fishes.

I would get a 55 gallon tank and get about 15 fish.

Then move up to a 75 gallon when you got the funds and up your group about 18-20 fish maximum.

The filtration you have is adequate for that tank size, you got about 1000gph filtration.

I am out of Ujiji fry right now, but there is moop fry on the horizon from others. I also have some Red Rainbow fry I can hook you up with in about 2 weeks, but its only 5 fish.

With fry I would be careful of tankmates, personally a colony of Tropheus does not really make good tank mates for about much of anything other than other Trophs or other tribe topheini.

The Calvus may have a hardtime with such agressive eaters as Trophs. The Brichardi would most likely be fine, but in a 3ft tank your going to be crammned.

[oneoffcustom]

Well i respect the advice you guys are giving and will go troph only. I was hoping to at least get a year or so use, is that crazy talk? In about a year i will have the funds to possibly smoothe talk wife into a 125.

[geoff_tropheus]

I have seen Calvus work with Trophs if there is alot of rock work and the Tropheus group is minimal small colony 10-12 fish.

But Tropheus colonies are prone to problems when less than 15-20 fish depending on variant except for Duboisi. Duboisi can go as low as 8-10 fish no problem as long as ratio is 1:1 or better in favor of females. Dont be male heavy.

[oneoffcustom]

I am in line for sspreludes moop fry, behind tater. He seems to always beat me to the trophs i want lol... I am a 1 tank guy though and will look forward to getting back in the troph game. Fingers crossed brian loses intrest lol...

[fshfrk]

That won't. never mind!

[oneoffcustom]

huh?

[myjohnson]

That won't. never mind!

+1, )

[oneoffcustom]

hmmm... inside joke huh....

I think i get it though. buy, sell, trade lol...

[geoff_tropheus]

That won't. never mind!

yeah the sun will comeup tomorrow...

[oneoffcustom]

Are moops the same as pineapple's, blue face and body with yellow on side?