Petro sp. Texas Bulu Point and Troph M'toto

[geoff_tropheus]

I need to see them in person..but..you do what you want...they are your fishes..

[myjohnson]

might have to give the emps a snack tomorrow :) they DO fit my yellow theme!

hmmm, I would give them a little more time to grow. Look at the yellow belly ones that are showing bars.....do they ever have that brown look to them when they are showing off?

[peterp63]

the WC males show a lot more yellow when they are flared up... not sure how brown the juvies get when they are showing off though. let's face it.......all I got is some WC mtoto and some emp food :(

[geoff_tropheus]

I guess during the Winter Tank Tour in Jan/Feb we shall see what they are.

that is unless you've killed them..

[geoff_tropheus]

Here is a link to photos of M'toto juvinile/sub adults that Heather has posted.

http://www.cyphos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21586

[geoff_tropheus]

They do have some bars, but not bright yellow bellies or dorsals like the Ujiji have.

All of them have black bellies and dorsals like the parents in the ones she has pictured.

Geoff

[geoff_tropheus]

Internet photos of Mtoto.



This is Heather's posted Subadult Male Alpha

http://cichlidkeeping.com/forums/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/alpha_mtoto.jpg

[geoff_tropheus]

Reserve Stock Cichlids photo of their adult breeders.

[myjohnson]

Heather got those same Mtoto from Reverse. She also lost all of them (among other things) in a snow storm that hit the NW last year. It was like IKE for them up there. All the power was out for days and water just got to cold for the fishes. But that's besides the point.

Peter is recording video with a P&S camera while Heather used a DLSR camera with flash to take those pictures. Things look different if you add in those variables.

If they are indeed ujiji, then Peter should be able to tell just by looking at them when they get a little older.

[cichlid1409]

some are lookin like ujiji. nevertheless, nice tank and fishes.

[peterp63]

They do have some bars, but not bright yellow bellies or dorsals like the Ujiji have.

All of them have black bellies and dorsals like the parents in the ones she has pictured.

Geoff

I see yellow in those areas geoffrey... just lookin at the pics.

[peterp63]

Response from Reserve:

"Peter- I don't have pics any on file. My camera isn't too good on small fish. They are pretty typical T. brichardi fry- yellow and brown stripes. Hope to hear from you."