Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

[CichlidFan]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

I have a question as well, would approx 60 troph's in a 210 gallon tank with a ample filtration, be happy, fruitfull & mulitply?

CF

[Delock]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

Yes,

1 troph per 2 to 3 gallon

[ddaquaria]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

I have a question as well, would approx 60 troph's in a 210 gallon tank with a ample filtration, be happy, fruitfull & mulitply?

CF

I push 30 in a 120 (4 footer), I would think 60 in a 210 would be possible but it will depend on length.

D

[Delock]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

I have a question as well, would approx 60 troph's in a 210 gallon tank with a ample filtration, be happy, fruitfull & mulitply?

CF

I push 30 in a 120 (4 footer), I would think 60 in a 210 would be possible but it will depend on length.

D

I will soon have close to 100 in my system

[imagirlgeek]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

Question from the corner............Is Mike going to order the remaining boxes we need to make the 15 max or is this all on us and Mike going to just take the empty space?

From what I understood, Mike was only going to pick up the extra 20%+ in any boxes that we order, but not order extra boxes to get us to the 15.  My assumption comes from the idea that we've been calculating our per fish cost based on the number of boxes ordered.  I think that if Mike were going to supplement the order to get us to 15, the price would have been set at the 15 box price from the beginning.  Again, I'm just guessing, but that how I think it's supposed to work.

[eklikewhoa]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

I have a question as well, would approx 60 troph's in a 210 gallon tank with a ample filtration, be happy, fruitfull & mulitply?

CF

What is ample filtration? What 60 are going in there?

Reason I ask is because when you mix variants the likelyhood of only one variant being successful at breeding is high since one variant will dominate over the other or the whole tank will go into defense mode and worry more about holding territory then breeding.

Also with that many fish the water quality drops fast so you need to be on top of it.... I have over 20x turnover rate worth of filtration on my 125g with 40g sump and when I had the petrochromis and babies in there the water quality was marginal when it came time for water changes. 125g with xp3 canister, eheim 2228 pro, and 40g sump with 1200gph return pump along with 50% water changes weekly. The total # of fish during that time was 39Ilangi+19Petros+8Fry.

[CichlidFan]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

Filtration Devices I have in mind:

Fluval FX5  
ProClear 200 W/D
Emperor 400  (maybe 2)
Two Odessey 350's Poweheads

I have not set this tank up yet and am open to any and all idea's when it comes to set up suggestions for a large quanity troph tank.

Thanks

Steve

[eklikewhoa]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

The Fx5 is a beast!
IMO I would go with a bigger W/D...I have the ProClear400 on my 125g and it's awesome at handling overflows!
I don't count powerheads in the filtration but I have two Maxi-jet 900's in my tank for added circulation.

Are you planning on mixing tropheus in this tank or will that 60 be a single variant?

[h0nkzz]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

???

[txfront]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

I have a fx5 and a lifeguard fluidized bed filter on my 210 and i have never had problems. (not that i should the FX5 is rated at 400 gallons, and my Fluidized is rated at 600.)

[ddaquaria]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

I thought Honkzz had 14  :doh:

I dont mind taking 7 if you want to keep the other 7. Im only down for 12 right now, but would like 15-20 if possible.

I'll take the remaining 7 if nobody does  ...

They are gone.  There are 4 of us on that box.

[NDsuperduty]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

where are we with total box count?

[rrocket2002]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

I don't think anyone will know for sure till tonight or tomorrow when Geoff gets time to go through all hes PMs and stuff.

[armthehomeless]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

"Box Total : 12 Confirmed Boxes Boxes with space, 1-Box Possible, 15-Box Maximum, 10-Box Minimum.

1 - Boxes Petrochromis Famula Blue Fin - no room – Has 1 Buyer
1 - Box Petrochromis Trewavasae Med/Large - room for 12 – Has 3 Buyers
1 - Box Tropheus Chipimbi – room for 16 – Has 1 Buyers
1 - Box Tropheus Nkonde - no room – Has 2 Buyers
1 - Box Tropheus Mpulungu – no room – Has 4 Buyers
1 - Box Tropheus Chaitika – room 16 – Has 1 Buyer
1 - Box Ectodus Descampsii - room for 12 – Has 4 Buyers
1 - Box Cyprichromis Leptosoma jumbo Isanga – no room – Has 2 Buyers
1 – Box Cyprichromis Leptosoma jumbo blue orchid - no room – Has 1 Buyer
1 - Box Paracyprochromis brieni Mbita Island – no room – Has 2 Buyers
1 – Box Cyathopharynx foae Moliro – no room – Has 2 buyers
1 - Box Opthamotilapia ventralis Gombe – no room – Has 2 Buyers

Chopping Block Boxes: 1 – Box Tropheus Kachese – room for 18 – Has 2 Buyers – Traci and Cesar need to PM me to confirm back on their commitment or atlesat 1 person committed to 1/2 the box
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[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Direct Import from Africa - African Cichlids Aquaculture

Hey everyone..I got good news and bad news for some of you..

First I want to answer a few questions..

1.  Mike will not order additional boxes to make 15, this order is for all of us the Hobbyist.  The only fish for his business are the unsold portions of our boxes.

2.  Tomorrow at Noon is the cut off for changing your order unless there is a problem with availibility from Africa.  I need everyone to PM Mike (bethesdaboy) with your email, so that he can send you a invoice by Friday.  This will give you the weekend to pay him, so he can place the order Monday December 3rd.

Good news and bad news..

1.  I believe with a lot of confidence we will make 15 boxes but if your wavering on joining or not, than do so today, so that tomorrow you can drop without causing a problem.

2.  Rob and Charles, there is a problem in the availibility of Paracyprochromis brieni Mbita Island  not having a full box.  She only has 21 smalls and 14 adults.  Michelle wants to substitute  Paracyprochromis nigripinnis blue neon adults to fill the box.  I need to know today if this is a problem?

3.  Divers are being sent today to collect Chipimbi and Kachese Tropheus

4.  There have been the following fish added to the availibilty list.  Take a look to see if interested in any of the following:

Bathybates Ferox
Chalinochromis brichardi black mask
Cyphotilapia frontosa Blue zambia sizes on request
Cyprichromis Zebra Chaitika
Enatiopus Melanogenys
Xenotilapia Sima Nsumbu
Xenotilpia flourescent green

If your interested I will give some extra time in order to get pricing back on them.  

There were a few changes to the list, but we are still at 12 confrimned boxes, and 1 in limbo.  I really would like to get to 15 so we get the 40% discount.

I will post an update in a few take care,

Geoff