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  • #16
    Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

    For the Pond Clout, call around to some of the pond stores in Houston.  They usually have it.  Should be about $20.  I get mine at Dr Fosters's for about $15.  I'm expecting some by next week.
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    • #17
      Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

      I've always read/heard that salt baths just increase the stress levels and sometimes make it worse. Everytime I've had issues with clout I instantly do a water change, then follow up with the dosage of clout. Clout for 2 more days then a water change. If they still aren't all eating then I wait a day, try to feed again, and if they still don't, then repeat the same pattern over the next 3 days.

      I don't know if this helps, but I'll post my schedule:

      AGA 150 driven by 2 Aquaclear 500s
      Water change every 5 days (+ Aquarium/Epsom Salt)
      Aquarian Flakes once a day (Around 7pm)
      Photoperiod: 11am - 11pm (10k's), 11pm - 1am (Moonlights)
      Temperature: 82F (constant)

      Good Luck!

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      • #18
        Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

        Hey Geoff there is a Koi store off Champions or something like that up north....not far from my In-laws house, maybe try and call them?

        I'm sure Mike meant Epsom which is the magnesium and will soothe the bloating/congestion/backed up intestine.
        700g Mini-Monster tank

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        • #19
          Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

          I have used epson salt before, but never as a salt bath.

          When I hear most people talk about salt baths, they are usually talking marine salt.  I just wanted to make sure that was clear.
          380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
          300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
          180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
          150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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          • #20
            Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

            The tank habitants right now are:

            15 - Petrochromis Trewavasae
            9 - Tropheus Lunangwa
            10 - Ectodus Descampsii formally 12

            I never moved the fish around because I wanted to get the Petros established before moving a bunch of fish around.
            380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
            300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
            180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
            150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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            • #21
              Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

              I put the Lunangwa in there hoping to get the Petros more out-going and eating more agressively.

              It worked at first, now..here I am in this problem...

              The Petros and Ectodus were in tank January 5th.  The lunangwa were added that next weekend January 12th.
              380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
              300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
              180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
              150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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              • #22
                Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                Using the wrong salt can be a killer to fish if you don't know what you are doing.

                Epsom salt is used for bloat and dropsy, not the others.
                www.txtropheustraders.com

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                • #23
                  Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                  I got (2) 100 count bottles of Clout so I am in no real "need" but for a tank this size that is what I need in the long run.
                  380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
                  300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
                  180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
                  150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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                  • #24
                    Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                    Good luck man.
                    www.txtropheustraders.com

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                    • #25
                      Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                      Instead of a bath, you should be fine with just adding the epsom/aquarium salt as your filling the tank up. That's what I do

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                      • #26
                        Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                        I think I'll be fine, I just wanted to share the experience with others for training.
                        380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
                        300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
                        180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
                        150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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                        • #27
                          Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                          share? or scare?  

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                          • #28
                            Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                            Both :wink:
                            380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
                            300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
                            180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
                            150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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                            • #29
                              Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                              Nice! I expect to see you post back in a day with only POSITIVE results!

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                              • #30
                                Re: ARgh! I got Bloat - 300 Gallon - Trophs, Ectodus & P

                                With all this good info, people will have a excellent resource.
                                380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
                                300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
                                180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
                                150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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