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    Question: Since i have a few ponds outside, everytime it rains, is it considered a water change in you guys view. I think so. I usually change the water 2-3 times a week. Definately not 50-60% like the hard core keepers. I probably change 20-25% each time. I only clean the massive filter once every 2-3 months. Only when the water is not crystal clear without particles.

    So the question, is rain considered a water change. Of course it depends on how much rain, but I am talking about a typical rain in the south.

    PN

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    I would count it as long as it was a good amount of rain.....the only thing I would worry about though since you have trophs in there is the pH drop.
    700g Mini-Monster tank

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    • #3
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      pH would be my concern too, and I do not know where in Louisiana you live, but do they have acid rain or anything?

      My large canisters I clean every 3 to 5 months depending on flow and how many suspended particles in the tank.

      Waterchanges are most important I think.  The only problem I have seen, is that with large canisters, I have done 75% waterchange, and still have high nitrates.

      Kinda frustrating at times, but man the media capacity and flowrate of those large canisters is SO NICE!!!
      380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
      300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
      180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
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      • #4
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        I have some coral and crush coral in there as substrate. I pretty much don't dose much, just siphon water out and add water back in. Makes water changing much easier

        If algae is an issue, I just turn on the uv lights and within a few days, the water is crystal clear again

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        • #5
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          I have found that if you do multiple large water changes the Nitrates will drop....also the algae growth sill soak up a bit of Nitrates if you run some decent lighting.

          I am able to keep mine below 20ppms when I hit the water changes hard (2-3x 70% weekly) and below 40ppms (1-2x 70% weekly) when I get lazy. When I clean my canisters I hose everything off regardless of bacteria or not since I rely solely on my wet/dry for bio as well as the large amount of rocks I have in the tank.
          700g Mini-Monster tank

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          • #6
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            I run two canisters capable of supporting the tank so that I can hose and rinse everthing too on one of them, then the next month the one gets done.
            380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
            300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
            180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
            150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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            • #7
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              You at work? I thought you didn't have a computer?
              700g Mini-Monster tank

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              • #8
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                I'm not worried much about the algea, they grow on the large rocks in the pond and the Tropheus graze on them all day. I don't test the water much if at all . I have had Tropheus in the pond for 2 seasons now and they grow great. That is why I am not worried too much about the levels. I guess I am pretty lax when it comes to that. I usually only clean , vacuum the pond once I see alot of particles around. I have a porer head in there for additional water movement .

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                • #9
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                  Still no computer at home.  I am at my Mom's on Vacation for the 4th here in Midland.  We are going camping in Carlsbad, New Mexico for the weekend, campout on the Pecos River, shoot fireworks, drink beer, eat campfire food, and go to the Caverns on Saturday.

                  Then back to Houston on Sunday night , but my fishes will be happy to see me.
                  380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
                  300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
                  180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
                  150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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                  • #10
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                    It's good to take a break, it's been a looooong week in the IT world over here and I have a feeling next week won't get any better. I have a  huge move next week of one of my large clients. They are moving their corporate offices

                    Have  a great and safe 4th everyone

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                    • #11
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                      If your pond has an overflow and the rainwater cause some of the old water to leave the pond and head for the nearest bayou THEN YOU HAVE A PARTIAL WATER CHANGE.

                      If you do not have an overflow and all you do is add makeup water to the closed system, it does not remove any of the nitrate build up or other polution.

                      Ever herd of the great salt lake or the dead sea ???
                      'Dear Lord,' the minister began, with arms extended toward heaven and a rapturous look on his upturned face. 'Without you, we are but dust ...'
                      He would have continued but at that moment my very obedient daughter who was listening leaned over to me and asked quite audibly in her shrill little four-year old girl voice, 'Mom, what is butt dust?'

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                      • #12
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                        I  have an over flow so that when the rain hits hard, the excess just drains to the garden. This has worked well for me. Not too much maintenance and it gives me a place to enjoy my Tropheus

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                        • #13
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                          Now all you need is a weekly rain dance and a periscope
                          'Dear Lord,' the minister began, with arms extended toward heaven and a rapturous look on his upturned face. 'Without you, we are but dust ...'
                          He would have continued but at that moment my very obedient daughter who was listening leaned over to me and asked quite audibly in her shrill little four-year old girl voice, 'Mom, what is butt dust?'

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                          • #14
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                            that would be cool
                            380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
                            300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
                            180G For Sale $1,100 Oceanic Cherry with Stand, T5HO Lights, (2) Eheim 2262
                            150G Tropheus Annectens Kekese & Ikola

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