Burundi Farms - Discussion

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Tropheus moorii Golden Kazumba

Mark had said in Cichlid Forum, that only Toby Veal and the Brichard Family have breeding operations on the lake.  The rest only have holding tanks for whats collected and then to be sorted and shipped out.

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Tropheus moorii Golden Kazumba

The problem is they cannot go and explore most of the congo side of anything, especially in the northwest side.

Most the Congo side is just about 100% off limits practically suicide to go there.

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Tropheus moorii Golden Kazumba

About a 1/3 Tanzanian side is protected national parks and it takes serious money to get permits to go in there and collect.

[J-WS6]

Re: Tropheus moorii Golden Kazumba

The problem is they cannot go and explore most of the congo side of anything, especially in the northeast side.

Most the Congo side is just about 100% off limits practically suicide to go there.

darn pirates  

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Its not so much Pirates as it is the private militia's and the rebels.

You go in pay one group to enter, then the other comes over wanting more money.

[Delock]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

But I thought Toby Veal and the Brichard Family  were located on the northern part of the lake!

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Birchard Family owns and operates Burundi Farms in Bujumbura, Burundi (NORTH EAST)

http://www.tanganyika-cichlids.com/fishesof.htm

Toby Veal owns and operates Rift Valley Tropicals. It is located in Nsumbu, Zambia. (SOUTH WEST)  
He also owns Kalambo Falls Diving Lodge (SOUTH EAST)

Rift Valley Tropicals Ltd
Tel:  +260 1 260164/757677

Postal Address:
P O Box 34065
Lusaka, Zambia

I am sure Laif or Kevin could probably get you Toby's email if you asked nicely

if they dont work go there and tell them to give it to you...  

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

and then give it to us    

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Here is a very interesting article I found about Toby, Ad, and Laif from 1998.

Nice reading...

http://www.cichlidae.com/article.php?id=124

ENJOY!!!

[bethesdaboy]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

I think Toby no longer does the lodge.

[eklikewhoa]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

One of the reasons I ask who is doing the exporting.

[Mzungu]

Re: Tropheus moorii Golden Kazumba

Guess where their culls end up?????

Yeap in the market, and the inbreed color is all screwed up.

 Had me really scared for a moment there. I thought the answer was "Back in the lake!" So, even though it's not ideal, at least they're not throwing them in the lake!

Just had to comment on that.  

[eklikewhoa]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

In most cases culls would be deformed in some way that they could not function......in the wild natural selection has a way of taking care of "culls".

[geoff_tropheus]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

They might be functional fish, but their color is completely wrong because they are inbreeding the defect.

Golden Kiriza

http://ls-aquarium.cz/fotogalery/nahledy/Tropheus_Golden_Kiriza_2_small.jpg

Golden Kiriza

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2171645933_020cd4e046.jpg?v=0

Golden Kiriza - Transition Fish

http://www.cichlidnewsmagazine.com/issues/2005jul/images/36f.jpg

Normal Kiriza

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/89/231642299_ab3d2df3bb.jpg?v=0

Kiriza with wrong Color - Has Orange in the band like Bemba

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/146825295_56ea13f734.jpg?v=0

[eklikewhoa]

Re: Burundi Farms - Discussion

Yeah those man made variants look weird.