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Per tr6 from frontosa.com
"You can't tell[WC or not] by looking at them.
There are some indicator's but they are not each time.
The example of lake spots is a good one.
Many wild frontosa will come in with black spots on them, we can debate what they are, but many have them.
Problem, not all wilds come with them, so if missing, one can't say the fish is NOT wild.
But if you buy a group, and some have spots, you could then with some certainty say your group is wild.
Though yes, it could be a group of wild and non wild.
Next is mooning.
Mooning is where, at the top of the third or fourth black stripe there is a white Y, or a white spot before it gets to the dorsal fin.
A spot without black pigment.
For whatever reason, inbreeding, diet, water quality etc.
Its rare that wild fish have it, though i have seen some.
Its usually from tank raised, though of course, not all tank raised have it.
So if you see a fish that has mooning and zero lake spots, you may want to keep walking.
If you see a fish with mooning and has lake spots, you may want to think about purchasing or not.
Best bet, a fish with zero mooning, and HAS THE LAKE spots.
You can be pretty sure its wild, and if it looks the way you want, buy it.
I'm not telling people that if the fish has mooning and no lake spots that it is a bad fish.
Simply this is somewhat of a indicator to help narrow in if a frontosa is wild or not."
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back in the days, WC Zaire Blue Frontosa came different sizes up to 12"+ ... nowaday most are 4-6 in... you can ship more fish to a box from the lake
Also the lake spot on them are fish from WC ... back when I use to order from African Aquatics some came in w/ lake spot
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Nice looking group there. Dave, I had the same thought as you about size, but Laif commonly has 3-4 inch WC Fronts on his stocklist. Alison once told me that they are shipping smaller fish due to cargo and fuel costs. As far as the spot thing goes I have noticed those on a number of my trophs as well. Only on the WC, never on fry and I agree that is pretty good indicator that a fish is WC.
Good luck with that colony JK120g - Tropheus Moorii Kambwimba
180g - Petrochromis Macrognathus Dine/Tropheus Moorii Namansi I
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when I got my wc mobas back in 2005 they had spots. they disappeared about 2 years later. what I heard causes these spots are from being bagged up for many hours making the long trip over from Lake T. these spots are ammonia burns. that's what was explained to me many years ago.180g Oceanic w/colony of 8 WC Moba Fronts (1m/7f) purchased from TNT Cichlids in Jan '05 & numerous fry. 1 F1 adult moba male. 2 2217 Eheims, 2 6080 Tunze Streams, WISA airpump, single stage Johnson ETC.....fishkeeping since 1988.
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[QUOTE=RonR.;526226]when I got my wc mobas back in 2005 they had spots. they disappeared about 2 years later. what I heard causes these spots are from being bagged up for many hours making the long trip over from Lake T. these spots are ammonia burns. that's what was explained to me many years ago.[/QUOTE]
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This is what I had read several years back , also .
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