Trophs in a 60 gal?

[Kenneth]

Oh no! The 125 I picked up had a 2215 on it now I have to buy a 2217 for the 125 when I get paid. Oh well, It gives me an excuse to bust out my 60gallon!

I have a bunch of large gravel at the moment but I am going to go ahead and pull it out and switch for sand.. I know, I know I should have done that in the first place, but I was really just wanting to make sure the tank didn't have any cracks and that the eheim didn't leak.

I would like to keep a colony of trophs, but I have read so much junk online about tank parameters and so far all I can find is that you should keep the water hard and alkaline with a high PH. There have been alot of numbers tossed around but mainly what I see is PH around 8-9 a KH in the mid range between 10 and 18 and a GH of over 10. Aside from that I see that over filtration is important (with the eheim rated for a 90 gallon tank, I figured that's a good start.).
My real concern is whether or not its possible to keep a colony of tropheus in a 60 gallon tank! If anyone has any pearls of wisdom I would love to hear them.

[Geral]

Is not only good filtration is estable ph, weekly
Wc and routine feeding. I would say
3 times a day small amounts or 2 with more food
lot of flow to make them swim and dont get bloat
Salt in every WC help, for filtration add
A hob just for mechanical , for flow powerhead or koralias two or more, sand would be your best bet to breed

And yes u can have it in a 60 But the bigger the better for
Schooling Just my 2 cent

U can ask Jhenry is a guru in trophs since i listen him
About trophs mine breed every month in a 55

[supadave]

It can be done....but it's not advised . I would hold up on the Trophs until I get the 125 gallon setup . This way...you only have to move the fish once which will cause less stress for the fish . Also , I hope you plan to put more filtration on the tank than just the 2217 . Lastly , think about adding some power heads to your tank , also . Trophs love a lot of water movement .

[Kenneth]

Thanks for the advice! Yes I did read that regular water changes with already prepared water, and stable water chemistry are very important aspects of keeping trophs. I have a couple of powerheads laying around and several HoB's so I should be okay there. And yes feeding was a very big point on what I had read, most mention that a steady feeding schedule helps keep them healthy. A lot of people recommend pretty good lighting for algae blooms that they graze on. I was planning on popping a 10 gal outside in the sun with river stones to cultivate some goodies if I do decide to go with trophs (it will also be important for my loach setup for the 125 gal) but i'm not sure what would be best to supplement their diet with. Ill pop a PM to jhenry to see if I can get any snippets of info or a friendly point in the right direction on the box's forums.

[armthehomeless]

Don't know if you've read this or not:

http://www.houstonfishbox.com/vforums/content.php?274-Keeping-Tropheus-A-beginners-guide-to-the-basics

[Kenneth]

Thanks!, and no I had not seen that link you gave me , but It seems that a 60 gallon isn't a proper home for a colony of trophs. I will just have to wait until I get another 125 or so to start with them! Thanks for the quick replies guys!

[myjohnson]

Nahhh, you can keep a colony in the 60g.

I kept them and breed them in a lot less.

[ddaquaria]

60s make great q-tanks for trophs...

[Nelson]

Nahhh, you can keep a colony in the 60g.

I kept them and breed them in a lot less.

I have seen a lots of colony trophs in 60's gallon and they breed every other month, it can't be wrong otherwise they didn't breed at all

[moganman]

It's all about filtration. If you have them in a 300 gallon with improper filtration they won't thrive.

[JkdJedi]

Oh no! The 125 I picked up had a 2215 on it now I have to buy a 2217 for the 125 when I get paid. Oh well, It gives me an excuse to bust out my 60gallon!

I have a bunch of large gravel at the moment but I am going to go ahead and pull it out and switch for sand.. I know, I know I should have done that in the first place, but I was really just wanting to make sure the tank didn't have any cracks and that the eheim didn't leak.

I would like to keep a colony of trophs, but I have read so much junk online about tank parameters and so far all I can find is that you should keep the water hard and alkaline with a high PH. There have been alot of numbers tossed around but mainly what I see is PH around 8-9 a KH in the mid range between 10 and 18 and a GH of over 10. Aside from that I see that over filtration is important (with the eheim rated for a 90 gallon tank, I figured that's a good start.).
My real concern is whether or not its possible to keep a colony of tropheus in a 60 gallon tank! If anyone has any pearls of wisdom I would love to hear them.

Sorry dude that 2217 and 2215 isn't gonna cut the mustard, I'd seriously consider getting a larger system. Bang for your buck right now will be the Fluval Fx5 at Amazon.com or Ebay, $210, free shipping. Take it from me I know, my 2217, wet/dry, and hang on barely keep up to my Ikola fry in a 90g!

[jhenry]

You can do trophs in a 60 gallon. I breed the $hit out of my Kirika colony for over a year in a 56g and then a 75g. And I hate to say I didn't have crazy filtration on either tanks just a small diy wetdry on each. I keept only 13 fish and I did see that they did do better in the 75g. I actually had more breeding out of my 75g than any other tank. Sometimes I wonder if some of us are doing it wrong lol. I've seen people be very successful breeding trophs in 40g or 68g with sponge filters. But I have to add they do very frequent WC on tanks like that.

[eklikewhoa]

anyone do a smaller than 60g tank?

[armthehomeless]

anyone do a smaller than 60g tank?

I bred dubs (1m/1f) in a 10g. GKs (unknown ratio) in a 40g.

[eklikewhoa]

learning all this stuff is giving me a headache.