Trophs in a 60 gal?

[cichlidomaha]

You definately won't more filtration, I am running an fx5 and 3 ac 110's on a 150 with my trophs along with 2 powerheads, just to give you an idea of the filtration these guys should have.

Tom

[JkdJedi]

You can do trophs in a 60 gallon. I breed the $hit out of my Kirika colony for over a year in a 56g and then a 75g. And I hate to say I didn't have crazy filtration on either tanks just a small diy wetdry on each. I keept only 13 fish and I did see that they did do better in the 75g. I actually had more breeding out of my 75g than any other tank. Sometimes I wonder if some of us are doing it wrong lol. I've seen people be very successful breeding trophs in 40g or 68g with sponge filters. But I have to add they do very frequent WC on tanks like that.

Wet Dry is crazy filtration for a fresh tank, don't be so modest..

[JkdJedi]

Oh no! The 125 I picked up had a 2215 on it now I have to buy a 2217 for the 125 when I get paid. Oh well, It gives me an excuse to bust out my 60gallon!

I have a bunch of large gravel at the moment but I am going to go ahead and pull it out and switch for sand.. I know, I know I should have done that in the first place, but I was really just wanting to make sure the tank didn't have any cracks and that the eheim didn't leak.

I would like to keep a colony of trophs, but I have read so much junk online about tank parameters and so far all I can find is that you should keep the water hard and alkaline with a high PH. There have been alot of numbers tossed around but mainly what I see is PH around 8-9 a KH in the mid range between 10 and 18 and a GH of over 10. Aside from that I see that over filtration is important (with the eheim rated for a 90 gallon tank, I figured that's a good start.).
My real concern is whether or not its possible to keep a colony of tropheus in a 60 gallon tank! If anyone has any pearls of wisdom I would love to hear them.

I have a 60g going with 17 Red Rainbow Kasanga (2 inch young ones) running with two 110 AC Filters and a #2 Koralia powerhead for flow. This is barely sustaining them. I have to change the water once to twice a week anf if I miss a water change, they let me know about it quick! They are not as active and start to get dark. As soon as I change the water, they are super bright and active. These will be moved to my 90g pretty soon.

[eklikewhoa]

So what's the verdict on this? I just set up a 30g long and have the opportunity to pick up a colony of about 25.

[aquabee]

I'd probably try it, since you'll be vigilant. I dunno about all 25 in a 30 long but I've personally seen a beautiful and hefty breeding colony in a regular 55g that's been running perfectly for several years.

[eklikewhoa]

I'm guessing it'll be ok, I at one point had 100+ in a 125 so the that would be about the same but just smaller tank and less fish right?

[TangoMIke]

It's definately do-able. I wouldn't recommend it for the novice. Just keep the water clean and watch for agression when they get larger. I have had the best sucess growing the fish out in the tank they are going to be in. It just takes time and patience.
Good Luck
Mike

[eklikewhoa]

It's definately do-able. I wouldn't recommend it for the novice. Just keep the water clean and watch for agression when they get larger. I have had the best sucess growing the fish out in the tank they are going to be in. It just takes time and patience.
Good Luck
Mike

Any advice as far as small tanks go? How small of a tank have you used?

[TangoMIke]

The 30 Long may be pushing it. Many many people will say you can't do it in anything under a 6 ft tank. That's just not true. If I was going to do it I would minimize the rock at first, filter the crap out of the tank and grow them up together in it. Watch the agression and pull the extra males out as needed. What type are you looking at, It does make a difference.
Mike

[eklikewhoa]

It's an old colony that is being given to me so I can't complain. Tank is already set up with the rocks like I want it and hope it works out cause I would hate to tear it down, filtration is ok I think but I'm thinking of ways to increase it some.

[TangoMIke]

Just keep a good eye on them. I would add an HOB with some floss or sponge in it for added filtration and maybe some carbon also. If your M/F ratio is good you will probably be OK
Mike

[eklikewhoa]

Thanks for the helping post.

[eklikewhoa]

Here's the link to my build to see what you thinkhttp://www.houstonfishbox.com/vforums/showthread.php?44143-Finally....http://www.houstonfishbox.com/vforum...?44143-Finally....

[JkdJedi]

I'm guessing it'll be ok, I at one point had 100+ in a 125 so the that would be about the same but just smaller tank and less fish right?

You know Tropheus need space period. Conventional wisdom will tell you that a 25 adult Tropheus will not work in a 30 long. where are the chased going to go? You need at least 4 ft of chasing space, unless your 30L is 4ft then I'd reconsider. If you really wanna try this then be ready for 2 water changes a week and LOTS of water movement with powerheads, at least 1000gph of water movement. Oh boy, crossing my fingers for ya, what kind of Tropheus are these?

[eklikewhoa]

Will one foot of space make that much of a difference? The tank it's a 30L so it's about 3ft