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  • #46
    Originally posted by eklikewhoa View Post
    You're slowly learning!

    Google translate is a beast!


    Now to get technical as to origin, they came from a great ocean which is what lake tang is thought to be a part of in prior life due to the resemblance of many organisms found in the lake.
    Not really trying to put another smart *** in the mix but...the fishes of Lake Tanganyika are not of marine origin. The lake has never adjoined a marine ecosystem. I believe they are instead the product on something called covergent evolution wherein unrelated organisims in similar environments develope similar characteristics.


    I believe it does matter how far downline fry are from the same colony. Cats from the same barnyard start being born without tail after just a few generation if no new blood is introduced. I do agree there's no way to control what people do with the fish they breed. the community on this forum is about the best thing a hobbiest could have going for him if he cares about that sort of thing.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by thedude View Post
      Not really trying to put another smart *** in the mix but...the fishes of Lake Tanganyika are not of marine origin. The lake has never adjoined a marine ecosystem. I believe they are instead the product on something called covergent evolution wherein unrelated organisims in similar environments develope similar characteristics.


      I believe it does matter how far downline fry are from the same colony. Cats from the same barnyard start being born without tail after just a few generation if no new blood is introduced. I do agree there's no way to control what people do with the fish they breed. the community on this forum is about the best thing a hobbiest could have going for him if he cares about that sort of thing.
      i couldnt agree with you more. Well said
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      • #48
        ok unrelated but somewhat related how do people determine how much to sell a fish for because obviously a WC fish will command a higher price but how is it that some fish seem to be overpriced as compared to other fish?
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        • #49
          Originally posted by LordBarron7692 View Post
          ok unrelated but somewhat related how do people determine how much to sell a fish for because obviously a WC fish will command a higher price but how is it that some fish seem to be overpriced as compared to other fish?
          Just ask yourself, what is your fish really worth to you? And how much would you sell them for, thats how most people that overpriced their fish price their fish. Also it has to do with availability of a certain species even if its WC or not
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          • #50
            Originally posted by New_Cichlid11 View Post
            Also it has to do with availability of a certain species even if its WC or not
            This.
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            • #51
              There's no such thing as an overpriced fish. There's a limited market. But there is always someone willing to pay the "overpriced" amount someone asks for the fish. It's a matter of finding that person.
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              • #52
                prime example of the mentality
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by thedude View Post
                  Not really trying to put another smart *** in the mix but...the fishes of Lake Tanganyika are not of marine origin. The lake has never adjoined a marine ecosystem. I believe they are instead the product on something called covergent evolution wherein unrelated organisims in similar environments develope similar characteristics.


                  I believe it does matter how far downline fry are from the same colony. Cats from the same barnyard start being born without tail after just a few generation if no new blood is introduced. I do agree there's no way to control what people do with the fish they breed. the community on this forum is about the best thing a hobbiest could have going for him if he cares about that sort of thing.
                  though never a direct statement has been brought to life that the two are connected physically there has been many topics to why the similarities exist. Evolution does play a big role but there was something along the line that helped.

                  Too many unexplained instances.

                  The spectacular marine-like diversity of the endemic fauna of Lake Tanganyika, the oldest of the African Great Lakes, led early researchers to suggest that the lake must have once been connected to the ocean. Recent geophysical reconstructions clearly indicate that Lake Tanganyika formed by rifting in the African subcontinent and was never directly linked to the sea. Although the Lake has a high proportion of specialized endemics, the absence of close relatives outside Tanganyika has complicated phylogeographic reconstructions of the timing of lake colonization and intralacustrine diversification. The freshwater herring of Lake Tanganyika are members of a large group of pellonuline herring found in western and southern Africa, offering one of the best opportunities to trace the evolutionary history of members of Tanganyika's biota. Molecular phylogenetic reconstructions indicate that herring colonized West Africa 25–50MYA, at the end of a major marine incursion in the region. Pellonuline herring subsequently experienced an evolutionary radiation in West Africa, spreading across the continent and reaching East Africa's Lake Tanganyika during its early formation. While Lake Tanganyika has never been directly connected with the sea, the endemic freshwater herring of the lake are the descendents of an ancient marine incursion, a scenario which may also explain the origin of other Tanganyikan endemics.
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                  • #54
                    Re: Lunangwa South Colony birth

                    Good stuff they could very well been connected one time
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                    • #55
                      With lineage I strongly agree, the problem is that the culture behind keeping these fish is not present.

                      I mostly prefer purchasing new imports rather than a handoff from fellow hobbyist due to this. Down the line someone retains pertinent info and the problem continues to be passed on.

                      Poor stock is added to the mix or even different variants allowed to breed within. Then the "label" gets thrown around to fetch the dollar.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by eklikewhoa View Post
                        With lineage I strongly agree, the problem is that the culture behind keeping these fish is not present.

                        I mostly prefer purchasing new imports rather than a handoff from fellow hobbyist due to this. Down the line someone retains pertinent info and the problem continues to be passed on.

                        Poor stock is added to the mix or even different variants allowed to breed within. Then the "label" gets thrown around to fetch the dollar.
                        +1

                        very true unless you know the true history of where they came from linking back to the importer you really
                        don't know what your getting.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Ogrodii View Post
                          +1

                          very true unless you know the true history of where they came from linking back to the importer you really
                          don't know what your getting.
                          So why are you agreeing with the statement and neglecting to tell the history of these fish? OxyMORON
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                          • #58
                            ok so basically its a crap shoot hmmm so then in essence some people are into keeping fish purely to make money?
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by nightster View Post
                              SunnyHouTX> TexSun> specialone0812 > Ogrodii
                              27 total, roughly 3"-3.5"(I believe) F1 Sp. Red Lunangwa South
                              +1 read.... smh
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by LordBarron7692 View Post
                                ok so basically its a crap shoot hmmm so then in essence some people are into keeping fish purely to make money?
                                Those people who say that are in denial.
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