Guppies and angels

[dhavalsp]

I have guppies and angel in a same tank..
One of the angel has some black dots/spots on its body....i am sure it is a disease but dont know exactly what is it and how can i treat it...

Guppies are also having problem...their tail have become thin...in the sense the tip is wearing off...i think it is fin rot....how shud i carry out the treatmet???

thanks

[Mzungu]

I have guppies and angel in a same tank..
One of the angel has some black dots/spots on its body....i am sure it is a disease but dont know exactly what is it and how can i treat it...

Can you post a picture? How are you sure it's a disease? Could it just be a different coloration of this particular angel?

Guppies are also having problem...their tail have become thin...in the sense the tip is wearing off...i think it is fin rot....how shud i carry out the treatmet???

Can you test your water for nitrates?

How long have the guppies been in this tank? How long has the tank been set up?

This could be fin rot, but it could also be a result of angels nipping on the fins of the guppies. Are they fancy guppies?

Can you describe what the ends of the fins look like a bit more?

[dhavalsp]

Tank has been set up for last month or so...angels have been in there ever since....guppies were introduced two weeks ago there tails were like tht when i got thm...i thot they will grow out once they are at my place with good diet....but no improvement...
my angels are docile they dont nip on guppies...

i am tryiong to upload pics but they are not getting thru....can someone help with tht,,,

[dhavalsp]

i cannot check water parameters...no means....i change 20% water every week.

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[imagirlgeek]

For the angels, the black spots could be Black Spot Disease (Metacercaria). IF this is what it is, as long as your angels are stress-free and appear to be behaving normally, you really don't have to worry about it. Metacercaria have a pretty distinct life cycle, so they don't survive in the aquarium long. The larva develops inside an aquatic snail. Once released, it invades the fish. In the wild, the infected fish is eaten by a bird, the bird poops over the water, completing the life cycle. Since no birds are going to swoop in and eat your fish, the life cycle is not going to complete. The only concern is irritation or secondary bacterial infection.

The guppies could have Columnaris. It's a bacterial infection very common in guppies. It's usually a very fast moving bacteria though, so the fact that they've shown this symptom for a couple of weeks without it getting worse is unusual for Columnaris. Either way, tail rot is pretty indicative of some sort of bacterial infection, so you'd do well to treat the tank with an antibiotic. Neomycin, Penicillin, Nifurpirinol, Nitrofurazone, or Sulfonamides can be used. Most of your LFS will have a variety of fish meds, so you can read the packaging to see what each one contains.

Hope this helps. Let us know if things get better....or worse.

[dhavalsp]

For the angels, the black spots could be Black Spot Disease (Metacercaria). IF this is what it is, as long as your angels are stress-free and appear to be behaving normally, you really don't have to worry about it. Metacercaria have a pretty distinct life cycle, so they don't survive in the aquarium long. The larva develops inside an aquatic snail. Once released, it invades the fish. In the wild, the infected fish is eaten by a bird, the bird poops over the water, completing the life cycle. Since no birds are going to swoop in and eat your fish, the life cycle is not going to complete. The only concern is irritation or secondary bacterial infection.

The guppies could have Columnaris. It's a bacterial infection very common in guppies. It's usually a very fast moving bacteria though, so the fact that they've shown this symptom for a couple of weeks without it getting worse is unusual for Columnaris. Either way, tail rot is pretty indicative of some sort of bacterial infection, so you'd do well to treat the tank with an antibiotic. Neomycin, Penicillin, Nifurpirinol, Nitrofurazone, or Sulfonamides can be used. Most of your LFS will have a variety of fish meds, so you can read the packaging to see what each one contains.

Hope this helps. Let us know if things get better....or worse.

So shud i just get the medicine and put in my tank which has both angels and guppies???

I have read tht it will interfere with helpful microrganisms in the tank....

Please provide some details abt the procedure....

Thanks

[dhavalsp]

Improvement

I tried treating with doxycycilne but it did not work, finally shifted all my guppies to seperate tank and treated them with Fungus clear from jungle. It has worked well. The super sick one's are doing better and less sick one's have shown some fin regrowth.
Lost two guppies in the process.

[dhavalsp]

all recovered...waiting for fins to grow back...thank yall...