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    Recently set up a 135g tank. It has a 40b with an 18g rubbermaid container full of pot scrubbers (not easy finding 70 bags of 6 pot scrubbers). 2x diy pvc drains with micron socks. It's been running for a few days now. I threw on a pengiun 350 HOB and took some very established filter media from other tanks and threw it in there. Parameters are all fine, nitrate/nitrite/ammonia... had to buffer for ph/hardness, but they're at good levels. I throw in a small Bn pleco to test the water and it died the next morning. Did the same thing and it died a couple hours later today.

    Back tracking: When I moved into my house, I had a big fish loss. I filled up 3 tanks in the garage, everything in the first tank died, other 2 were fine. I thought it was from soft water, but with the house being a new build and filling from a faucet rarely used, I came to the decision that there was some kind of garbage in the water lines at that time that was flushed into that first tank. The first tank was the 40B im using now, and the pengiun HOB was the filter used on that tank. The tank has been empty and dry for a week prior to me using as a sump and the filter was poured out and rinsed before using (all media discarded).

    The only thing I can come up with thats causing this death that something transferred from that "death tank" in the garage to my new 135g through the 40b or the filter. I'm thinking it's some kind of metal that was in the pipes. I found this product -Seachem CupriSorb-, that's suppose to take out copper and a lot of other metals from the water.

    Does this sound like an issue caused by an unknown metal in the system? Do you think this product might help? Or should I just toss in a few cups of bleach, let it run in the system for a day, drain the tanks, let it dry, take out filter media, let it dry fully outside and start completely over. I have more media on other tanks that I can use to jump start the tank again.

    Any thoughts? Thanks

  • #2
    first thing id do is too test the tap your using and see what the water is coming out as ??
    if all else fails do a complete clean on the tank and media and then fill with already established water and jump your bio using a chemical or rinsing a sponge on it. Something i do when getting a used tank is a total and complete cleaning of everything , cause you never know.....and then you know you safe to start where you need to and there no harmful things in a used filter. Some people think its hard to clean and get a new filter going for new tank setups, but really the bio is all you need to keep alive and going the rest can be bleached cleaned and whatever.
    5 gal baby hecqui grow out
    7 gal baby compressicps
    14 bio cube fry tank, multies-orange leleupi-telmatochromis
    4 tank rack- 30 cubes. Shellies, mulities-brevis-telmatochromis-caudopunctaus
    100 gal mixed community tank
    125 Tropheus black bembas

    Tanngankia cichlids what else

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    • #3
      My tap is fine, I did water changes on all my other tanks. This new tank is cycled, as I jump started with media from my other tanks. I'm running carbon and 2 bags of Chemi-pure currently to try and get out some of the possible metals in the water. I cleaned out the new tank that I got, the problem is that I didn't clean out the 40b and the hob (didnt use media) from the tank of death that was filled with water out a rarely used faucet of a brand new house. There mustve been some kind of garbage in those pipes back at that time. All the water coming from that faucet is fine now since ive been doing water changes fine, but from that initial fill, something may have leeched into the silicone or something which is now leeching into the system of the new tank. *shrug*

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      • #4
        do you use any kind of carbon bottle or something during you waterchanges
        5 gal baby hecqui grow out
        7 gal baby compressicps
        14 bio cube fry tank, multies-orange leleupi-telmatochromis
        4 tank rack- 30 cubes. Shellies, mulities-brevis-telmatochromis-caudopunctaus
        100 gal mixed community tank
        125 Tropheus black bembas

        Tanngankia cichlids what else

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        • #5
          I don't, no. My tap water is fine now. It's just that first tank that was filled up had garbage in it from the new construction. The two tanks right after that first time were fine too.

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          • #6
            id start using something...
            The rv one from walmart seems to work pretty well
            5 gal baby hecqui grow out
            7 gal baby compressicps
            14 bio cube fry tank, multies-orange leleupi-telmatochromis
            4 tank rack- 30 cubes. Shellies, mulities-brevis-telmatochromis-caudopunctaus
            100 gal mixed community tank
            125 Tropheus black bembas

            Tanngankia cichlids what else

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            • #7
              As I said, I still do water changes on all my other tanks, which are all perfectly fine. This one tank has something different in it, that doesn't show up in my tests. It's probably something metal related that was transferred from the first tank I filled up after moving into this house (that im now using as the sump for my new tank), filled from a faucet that was never run after the house was built. Who knows what kind of stuff was sitting in that one pipe when I used it to fill that first tank up... copper? iron? cement residue? glue? Endless what stuff could be in there. That's what i'm trying to get out.

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