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  • #16
    Little ones are just too cute. BE A MAN!!!!!

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    • #17
      Good info

      Just a blog tracking all of the technical issues I have run into which I couldn’t find documented elsewhere.
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      • #18
        Very nice read thanks! What do ya think of all that?

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        • #19
          I agree 100% but do not know anything about microsiemons, maybe someone smarter than me could start a thread on this.
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          • #20
            Chris

            Thank you for wondering about the pvc aspect.... Ever since I saw the article about the carbon snake,, I got to thinking ........

            Since the surface area of the carbon has to be exposed to water in order for the Chlorine to be absorbed/neutralized.... and that exposure / surface area has to be quite intensive... what would be wrong with this idea then...

            Using a 2 inch diameter pvc pipe cut in 5 foot lengths times 5 pieces..

            Using presure fitting u shaped elbows to join the pieces together.... a screen mesh on both ends with an adaptor for the in hose and an adaptor for the out hose..

            the five piece stack would be long...(accumulative 25 feet long) would have a carbon surface exposure area similar to the snake, be easy to undo the pressure fittings to replace the carbon and or clean...

            If person did not want to use the pressure fittings, they could use the regular plumbing cement and elbows fitted together and use a pressure fitting every other joint for ease of cleaning and filling the carbon up.

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            Is 25 feet over kill???

            Bill

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            • #21
              Originally posted by billansor View Post
              Chris

              Thank you for wondering about the pvc aspect.... Ever since I saw the article about the carbon snake,, I got to thinking ........

              Since the surface area of the carbon has to be exposed to water in order for the Chlorine to be absorbed/neutralized.... and that exposure / surface area has to be quite intensive... what would be wrong with this idea then...

              Using a 2 inch diameter pvc pipe cut in 5 foot lengths times 5 pieces..

              Using presure fitting u shaped elbows to join the pieces together.... a screen mesh on both ends with an adaptor for the in hose and an adaptor for the out hose..

              the five piece stack would be long...(accumulative 25 feet long) would have a carbon surface exposure area similar to the snake, be easy to undo the pressure fittings to replace the carbon and or clean...

              If person did not want to use the pressure fittings, they could use the regular plumbing cement and elbows fitted together and use a pressure fitting every other joint for ease of cleaning and filling the carbon up.

              Or

              Is 25 feet over kill???

              Bill
              I made version of this with 1" pvc. I used 3ft sections x 4. Glued it.I made a hook out of couplings so it would hang on the pond. It works great. Would make a few changes on the next one though. But like Bill said it works. Pic coming.



              Last edited by fshfrk; 12-13-2009, 02:22 PM.
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              • #22
                It would work better with 1 1/2"pvc or 2" pvc. Don't use thin wall pvc(sch20) it will not glue tightley and it will leak. Use sch40 only. Also reduce down to 3/4 " on in-output. I reduced down to 1/2" and it slows the flow.
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                • #23
                  I happened across this while looking for something else. Mine is made from 2" pvc pipe but otherwise pretty much like John's snake design. I also added an extra pvc bushing so that I can change out the carbon without cutting the pipe.

                  Here are pics





                  I worry about the amount of contact time between water and carbon. I still use water conditioner as a precaution.
                  Jarrod - Houston, Texas
                  150 gallon - my African cichlid monster tank (I know it isn't a big as yours)
                  17 gallon - Threadfin rainbows and corys lightly planted
                  5 gallon - planted red cherry shrimp breeder
                  3 gallon - planted red cherry shrimp breeder

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                  • #24
                    Wow
                    Thank you for that .......

                    You had a total of 12 feet but had slow flow... sooo with that in mind and that time is precious when doing water changes...

                    My idea of two inch diameters for a total of 25 feet and for a faster flow... would that work???

                    Is there a way to determine optimium efficiency without overdoing it and not under doing it... overkill is okay but cost wise may not be good..

                    Bill

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                    • #25
                      With mine (pics above) if I have the kitchen faucet wide open the flow doesn't seem that fast. I packed my carbon with filter floss at both ends. This might have something to do with it. The next time I get it out, I will determine the flow and the velocity across the 2" section of pipe.

                      It seems like it takes at least 10 minutes to get 35 gallons through mine which would be about 12 seconds of contact time but I will have to check. I don't know how much time is needed for carbon to work.
                      Jarrod - Houston, Texas
                      150 gallon - my African cichlid monster tank (I know it isn't a big as yours)
                      17 gallon - Threadfin rainbows and corys lightly planted
                      5 gallon - planted red cherry shrimp breeder
                      3 gallon - planted red cherry shrimp breeder

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by billansor View Post
                        Wow
                        Thank you for that .......

                        You had a total of 12 feet but had slow flow... sooo with that in mind and that time is precious when doing water changes...

                        My idea of two inch diameters for a total of 25 feet and for a faster flow... would that work???

                        Is there a way to determine optimium efficiency without overdoing it and not under doing it... overkill is okay but cost wise may not be good..

                        Bill
                        I do not know about optimum eff. but if no chlorimine is coming out then that's optimum. 1 1/2" is proven to me. give it a try Bro! Call me and I will mail you some HACH total chlorine test reagents so you can feel confident
                        you will have NO problems! I will pm you my #. john
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                        • #27
                          John - Can you point me to a specific product that I can buy locally to test for chlorimine / chlorine?
                          Jarrod - Houston, Texas
                          150 gallon - my African cichlid monster tank (I know it isn't a big as yours)
                          17 gallon - Threadfin rainbows and corys lightly planted
                          5 gallon - planted red cherry shrimp breeder
                          3 gallon - planted red cherry shrimp breeder

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                          • #28
                            Now you guys have me thinking a little bit more..... A dangerous thing..

                            John... What would happen if I were to use a 4 inch 5 foot long pbc tube that was threaded on both ends......

                            One of the ends also had a 1.5 inch pvc pipe caped (cemented) and cemented onto the end... This PVC pipe would be the time that was used in a septic system and had predrill holes...

                            The other end of the pvc pre drilled hole pipe would be capped with an flow through threaded adaptor to the other end of the 4 inch tube. So when the tube was threaded it would effectively allow a garden hose to be hooked up to flow into the pre drilled pipe.. The type of pipe that is used in leachfields

                            When the setup is all put together and then packed with the carbon, the flow of the water would go out through the predrilled 1.5 inch tube into the carbon..

                            The water would be forced out into a seperate opening that would be for the fish tank...

                            I think the amount water exposure to the carbon would be for a great period of time without the extensive length and also would provide for greater effect.....

                            Is that dumb?????

                            Just thinking outside of the box again...

                            Bill

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by fshfrk View Post
                              I do not know about optimum eff. but if no chlorimine is coming out then that's optimum. 1 1/2" is proven to me. give it a try Bro! Call me and I will mail you some HACH total chlorine test reagents so you can feel confident
                              you will have NO problems! I will pm you my #. john
                              Went to FR2 during lunch and they didn't have testing kits for chlorine / chloramine. Anyone know where I can get these near Meyerland?
                              Jarrod - Houston, Texas
                              150 gallon - my African cichlid monster tank (I know it isn't a big as yours)
                              17 gallon - Threadfin rainbows and corys lightly planted
                              5 gallon - planted red cherry shrimp breeder
                              3 gallon - planted red cherry shrimp breeder

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jarrodaden View Post
                                I happened across this while looking for something else. Mine is made from 2" pvc pipe but otherwise pretty much like John's snake design. I also added an extra pvc bushing so that I can change out the carbon without cutting the pipe.

                                Here are pics





                                I worry about the amount of contact time between water and carbon. I still use water conditioner as a precaution.

                                oooo i like your idea!!

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