Goldfish breeding

[Dien16]

I have ryukins, orandas, comets, and fantails. Im curious how do you sex them and does anyone know how to breed them.

[supadave]

I have ryukins, orandas, comets, and fantails. Im curious how do you sex them and does anyone know how to breed them.

That's a good question . I do not know of anyone who breeds goldfish.

[supadave]

Your question really made me curious so......I Asked Google . Here is a site that may be of some help to you .


http://goldfish2care4.com/breeding-goldfish.html

[mistahoo]

There are some members on here that are actually breeding them but they seem somewhat inactive other than to post pics once or twice.

[Dien16]

Thanks. Yea i looked it up too and found a forum on goldfish. Some of the ways mentioned are possible ways to tell but aren't really accurate. So far the only definite way i can see whether they are male or female is when they are in breeding season. And i was hoping someone on the box has tried it or maybe done it before so i can have someone close that i know has done the hand breeding method or some type of experience with breeding.

[Dien16]

http://goldfishkeepers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2565

This is what i found. And I've read that some breeders inject their fish with some type of hormone that makes makes males give off the hormones and makes other males chase them as if they were females. They do this to protect their breed or whatever.

[black_knight]

Few aquariumist breed goldfish in a tank usually done in ponds and with breeding matts. I knew an old Filipino guy who had a set up in his garage of several 55 gallon tanks. He does 3 80% water changes a day, and would feed heavily with blood worms and crickets (high protien foods). He uses a reverse trio. He also has a huge bag of Amonia chips strapped around each filter return. Usually there is a cooling period prior to the conditioning. I don't recall the temps for a monthor so. Then he starts his feeding and conditioning after he starts raising the temp. He's doing massive water changes as described at this time. Over several weeks the temp will hit about high 70's to 80.
The males will start to nugge the famale in the early mornings. You'll need good size fish (3 years old). Males and females are hard to diff. ot of breeding condition. Males have tuberculae along their gill plates and pectoral fins, females will be smooth. Also conditioned females will be ripe with eggs and be rounder (hard to tell with your fancy varieties- they're all fat). By venting- males will have a less prominant vent. Females bulge out more. He would throw in spawing matts, when the chasing would start and collect the eggs. Now raising and hatching was his little secret.

[Dien16]

Yea I agree with all of that. and the females would pop out eggs and the males fertilize it with their milt. This is the way someone does their hand breeding method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=58XMfkFOtwQ

they have more males to have enough milt to fertilize the many eggs and use less water to make the water more saturated with the milt. Hatching them would take 3-4 days with the temperature around 21 C and raising them they cull out the bad ones and many water changes to give them cleaner water. just like plants that are all clumped together they remove some so the others have room to grow. and ive seen where some feed the babies baby brine shrimp every 2 hours or so.

[Fancyfish]

I've not done handbreeding on the goldfish. I've done pond breeding and am raising some up now to breed next year. The best way to sex them in my opinion is wait til spring and see who is chasing whom. They will breed for several months so once you can tell male/female you can seperate them and feed them up then put the fish you want to breed together.

[Dien16]

ahh thanks alot on that. Been wanting to breed mine and sex them but figured just wait til they start chasing. Got any advice on breeding and hatching and raising?

[Fancyfish]

they will lay eggs by the 1000's dont' try to raise them all. Have a lot of plants for the fish to lay the eggs on. Can be fake or real or even yarn strands. Just make sure what ever you use is loose enough they wont get caught in it. they usually spawn in the morning, so when you see them chasing, pull some plants out and look for eggs. If you see some, then either pull the fish out or put some plants in an aged aquarium or other pond. They will hatch in a couple days and you can leave them in the hatching place or move some into an aquarium. The most important thing is to cull out the fish you don't want. Goldfish can throw a lot of deformed fish. Don't cull for color until they start changing color; I'm not sure when that is I think 3-4 months of age.

My plan is to raise fry in the same pond the parents are in. The natural food in there will be enough for them. When I can start seeing them pretty easy, I plan to start the culling process. I have a 75gal set up for gold fish and any I really like I'll put in there for special pampering.

I hope this helps.[

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[Dien16]

Yea it sure does. although i dont have a pond so im using tanks instead

[eklikewhoa]

Look for old kiddie pools.