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  • Fish Cruelty...?

    I'm going to give a few examples of some stuff I've recently seen and I'd like to get your opinions on them.

    The topic of cruelty to animals recently came up the other day because a restaurant here in town was keeping an Oscar that had hole-in-the-head and a large Jack Dempsey in a tank that was obviously too small for it. It made me think about a few other places that I've seen recently.

    Example #1: I went into a certain LFS the other day and I saw a very large Petro stuck in a 20g tank (maybe smaller). He could barely turn around in this tank. He looked miserable and in the tank below him was another large Petro in the same predicament. As I understand it, these Petros are very rare and somewhat valuable, so why are they being treated so horribly? Directly in front of these fish was a huge tank that had 4 tiny fish in it....why couldnt the Petros live in this tank? I could understand it a little more if these fish were for sale, but they aren't. They are being kept by the owner and I personally feel like this is a form of animal cruelty.

    Example #2: My brother and I have been to another LFS more times than I can count and seen huge birds in cages that are LITERALLY too small for them to stand. The birds are usually malnourished and seemingly in pain. I've said some stuff to employees before but I get the "shut your mouth" look and nothing gets done. They have a section at the back of the store that is for birds with larger cages but they shove these large birds in tiny cages and its disgusting.

    Example #3: I can't remember the name of the store (the reason I cant remember is because I went once, saw some stuff I wished I didnt, and never went back). Anyway, I saw a similar situation as the one at #1 except the fish in this situation was obviously hurt. I discussed the fish with the store owner and she told me that her husband was not going to sell this fish because she had a "deformity". The fish had a slightly misshaped mouth....nothing that would effect the value of it. I told her that it bothered me to see this fish in the condition it was in and offered to take it home and nurse it back to heath and give it a healthy home, I offered a fairly large amount of money, she declined.

    Basically, I just dont understand how people can open a pet store, and blatantly mistreat the animals. I really like going to the 2nd LFS, I think they have an awesome salt water section and they have a ton of quality dry goods but I'm never going back because I hate seeing those sickly birds dying in a tiny cage. Same goes for the other shop. The owner would rather a fish suffer and die before they let anyone hurt their reputation.

    Any thoughts??
    Last edited by imagirlgeek; 02-04-2010, 04:22 PM. Reason: missed one. :)
    If it ain't wild caught
    You ain't doing it right

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    In Example #1...I agree with you. But I know that this store keeps the Bulu's separated because he was having a problem with them killing each other. I do agree that it would be nice to see them in a tank where they could at least swim. I see them in the 20L and all they can do is move back and forth. This just don't seem right to have a Petro that can't swim around. In his defense, I understand that you have a rare fish and you want to keep it... but if you can't keep the fish in a reasonably happy environment...then I say sell it to someone who can or will.
    Last edited by supadave; 02-04-2010, 02:19 AM.

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    • #3
      I didnt mean to say anything bad about the owner or employees or the shop itself, I enjoy going to the 1st LFS I just hated to see that beautiful fish in that tiny a$$ tank.
      Last edited by FrontosaurusRex; 02-04-2010, 02:17 AM. Reason: took out the name of the store
      If it ain't wild caught
      You ain't doing it right

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      • #4
        Not that i agree with or condone any of this...cause i dont... But you may want to remove the store names from your post.. I know on our local forum we are not allowed to bash the stores. Mainly because some of them are our sponsors. They help fund our club and our website. It is in the forum rules that we all have to agree to when signing up. I kinda skipped thru the ones on this site figuring they would be the same. Which they most likely are.
        We would get the jist of the story by just reading " i went to A PET STORE" kinda thing.
        Just my thought.
        My Name is Dave.......and im a Trophaholic.

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        • #5
          Well, here in America....nah i'm just kidding. I thought about removing the names but then I realized that I didnt say anything disrespectful or derogatory about the stores. If Traci or another moderator wants to change it, feel free. Dont you think you Canadians did enough damage to America when you sent us Nickelback and Alanis Morrisette? LOLOLOL. I'm totally kidding.
          If it ain't wild caught
          You ain't doing it right

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          • #6
            Ok...i will give you the alanis morrisette one...she was "too hot to handle", but nothing wrong with nickelback...cept hes REAL FUGLY!!!
            My Name is Dave.......and im a Trophaholic.

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            • #7
              If it ain't wild caught
              You ain't doing it right

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              • #8
                And i have to disagree....just the fact that you are implying that they are cruel to their animals is negative and disrespectful.... true or not... its still libelous.
                My Name is Dave.......and im a Trophaholic.

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                • #9
                  I see your point, i'll take the names out of the post. My bad
                  If it ain't wild caught
                  You ain't doing it right

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FrontosaurusRex View Post
                    I didnt mean to say anything bad about the owner or employees or the shop itself, I enjoy going to . I just hated to see that beautiful fish in that tiny a$$ tank.
                    I understand..and neither am I. I know that you are just having an open discussion about the well being of the animals in some of our local shops. I don't know if we are in the right forum... but i don't see anything wrong with the topic.
                    Last edited by supadave; 02-04-2010, 02:20 AM.

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                    • #11
                      nothing wrong with the topic whatsoever... its one that should be brought to more peoples attention... As for the stores, it needs to be dealt with diplomatically
                      My Name is Dave.......and im a Trophaholic.

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                      • #12
                        I took out the names of the shops and I apologize to anyone that is associated with the shops if I've hurt the integrity of your shops.
                        If it ain't wild caught
                        You ain't doing it right

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                        • #13
                          Hey.. Rex...I went ahead and edited my post also. Just trying to avoid a small thing becoming a big issue later.

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                          • #14
                            Now...back to the topic at hand. What about the stores that have most of their fish in say 20-30 gallon tanks? They usually have 200-300 1-2 inch fish in each one. That seems cruel to me also. Or the fish feeding frenzys at some stores... or when they bag your fish 10 of them in a really small bag and frown at you when you ask them for a bigger bag or multiple bags.
                            My Name is Dave.......and im a Trophaholic.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by supadave View Post
                              Hey.. Rex...I went ahead and edited my post also. Just trying to avoid a small thing becoming a big issue later.
                              Sorry guys...just didnt want to see this blow up in someones face. May not be yours, but sh@t travels downhill you know.
                              My Name is Dave.......and im a Trophaholic.

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