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    Poor excuse of a fish tank.

    Well i got to take some pictures of my fish tank. I have more, but they are so ugly i dont want to post them. I need to speak to someone about picture taking. Like shutter speed and all that technical stuff.

    Well im going to soon upgrade to some black rocks. I read somewhere they make the color stand out more in the fish. Im also going to upgrade to a white floresent light, and im going to get some straight airline tubing i saw at petsmart, that way i dont have  wigglly lines in the water. Just for a clean finish. What else do yall recommend? More plants? Fake plants, Real Plants?

    Can yall tell me what kind of fish is the orange one next to the black convict.



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    Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

    Look's like a god start to me!

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    • #3
      Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

      It all comes down to you personal choice. If you happy with the tank then let it be. I have found that dark gravel looks the best with fish and plants. Ive made the more expensive change from brown river gravel to black also from fake plants to real. Also depends if you want to put in the extra effort to having real plants. I think they look better then fake and they help with the water. You can buy some easy to care for plant bulbs for real cheap.

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      • #4
        Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

        Originally posted by Grace";p="
        It all comes down to you personal choice. If you happy with the tank then let it be. I have found that dark gravel looks the best with fish and plants. Ive made the more expensive change from brown river gravel to black also from fake plants to real. Also depends if you want to put in the extra effort to having real plants. I think they look better then fake and they help with the water. You can buy some easy to care for plant bulbs for real cheap.
        Well im not really happy, it's "missing" something. I already got my mind set on black gravel.

        How hard is i to take care of live plants? How do u do it when water change is needed? Wont my suckerfish and crayfish eat my plant? How does the plant help with the water? Is there a link so i can read up on it ?

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        • #5
          Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

          Overall, I think those 3 pictures are good quality.  I would add more light to the tank or use a photo editor program to give theose pictures more light and perhaps a bit more contrast.

          It's been a while since I studied photography but if you have a deep tank you need a higher f stop to get both the front & back in focus and you need a macro lense if you want to get up close and focus on a littled fish.

          If you use slow speed settings put the camera on a book or other surface that does not move while the picture is being taken.

          Use a glass cleaner to clean the smudges off the tank and take the pictures from a slight angle to avoid the glare which shows up in the second picture.

          If you have a tank without a background, you can cover the back with a beach towel for a tempory background.
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          • #6
            Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

            I wouldn't recommend live plants for a tank that has those fish/ crayfish... They would end up getting torn apart/eaten up most likely.
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            • #7
              Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

              I agree, your pleco would probably leave them alone, but the crayfish will definitely eat them, or at least uproot them.

              I think it's a good start, too! Don't know what the orange fish is...but I'm sure someone will!

              What is the box thing on the right side of the tank? Can't tell...
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              • #8
                Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

                I think the only plant i've had that my crays didn't gobble was a purple waffle plant.  Those like lots of light, but mine did OK with a standard fluoresecent light.  It didn't grow like mad, it just stayed the same and didn't die.  I regularly put anachris and hornwort in my cray tanks because they love to eat it.  I keep more outside in a clean tank so I don't have to keep buying it - it just replenishes itself.  They still eat it faster than I can grow it.  it can be a pain when vacuuming as the little plant pieces clog the flapper in my gravel vac.
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                • #9
                  Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

                  When taking pictures of your fish with an SLR camera I shoot with a 2.8F stop or lower, turn on as much light as I can.  If I have to use a external flash I point it straight up into the ceiling and I tend to shoot slow (ie around 1/60 or 1/80)  The flash is going to light the fish from the top.  If you put the flash to the glass and shoot you are going to see glare off the scales of the fish and then you have to fix that too in something like PhotoShop.   Try and take pictures without the aid of a flash if possible.   Btw... Clear water helps alot :)

                  What fish do Jesper have
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                  • #10
                    Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

                    Originally posted by Zulaab";p="
                    When taking pictures of your fish with an SLR camera I shoot with a 2.8F stop or lower, turn on as much light as I can.  If I have to use a external flash I point it straight up into the ceiling and I tend to shoot slow (ie around 1/60 or 1/80)  The flash is going to light the fish from the top.  If you put the flash to the glass and shoot you are going to see glare off the scales of the fish and then you have to fix that too in something like PhotoShop.   Try and take pictures without the aid of a flash if possible.   Btw... Clear water helps alot :)
                    What is SLR? What is 2.8F stop or lower? What is 1/60 or 1/80, the seconds?

                    I try and take pictures without flash, and it comes out way, way to dark.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

                      SLR = Camera with interchangeable lenses (ie think Professional camera's, or Pro/AM)  Non-SLR = point and shoot cameras (ie. think of the camera without interchangeable lenses, pocket camera's, camera phones, anything where most people just look at their object and shoot.)

                      1/60 and 1/80 refers to the speed the camera is shooting at.  In this case the shutter is open for 1/60th and 1/80th of a second.  Most SLR camera's today can handle from a couple of seconds (better be on a tripod and a non-moving object) to 1/2000-1/8000th of a second which will freeze raindrops or other high speed objects without blur.

                      2.8F = F-stop = this refers to the amount of light that the camera allows into the camera at the time of the shot.  The lower the number ie in this case F2.8 means a large number of light will enter the lens.  You use this setting or lower when shooting indoors because there is generally not near as much light indoor like there is outdoors.  Think of F stop as the percentage of light "not" entering the lens.  Better cameras will have a low F stop available to allow you to shoot in low light situations without the use of a flash.  An F stop of say F22 the reverse holds true, think of this as 22 percent of the light is shaded out, therefore to shoot with a F22 you must have a lot of light you want to not have enter into your lens (like shooting into the sun)

                      If you have a way to add additional light to room or up against the glass to increase the amount of light in the aquarium then you will not need to use the flash.   I have in the past taken a desk lamp and added it on top of the fish tank to add the extra and get enough light source in there.  

                      If you can tell me what kind of camera you have then I might be able to give you a few more pointers.

                      What fish do Jesper have
                      180 WC T. Moorii Chilambo +1 Petro trewavasae.
                      110                       Cyps, WC Xeno Spilopterus Kipili WC/F1/F2 T. sp red Kiku
                      58 S. Decorus
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                      • #12
                        Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

                        Single Lense Reflex
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                        • #13
                          Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

                          Originally posted by PhishPhreek";p="
                          Single Lense Reflex
                          Thank you :)

                          What fish do Jesper have
                          180 WC T. Moorii Chilambo +1 Petro trewavasae.
                          110                           Cyps, WC Xeno Spilopterus Kipili WC/F1/F2 T. sp red Kiku
                          58 S. Decorus
                          "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

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                          • #14
                            Re: Poor excuse of a fish tank.

                            I have a dsc-p200 sony cyber-shot 7.2 MP. So a fancy P&S u could say.lol.

                            I guess i should of read up on things before i asked all those questions. This is what i found. (basically the same thing u told me after i read this) Still, atleast i know ur the guy to go to when taking pictures.
                            http://www.houstonup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49


                            Well i guess i'll ask u some more questions when u tell me a little more about what i can do with my camera. I should go get me a tripod then, since what i want to do with my bubbles (make them look like they are moving) i will have to have a slow shutter speed, and that is very sensitive to movement as i found out.

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