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  • #76
    Changing gravel/substrate can be a very tough endeavor. In all honesty I'd simply do a complete restart and hopefully save the filter and media. Sand can be cleaner if not kept too deep. There are a variety of options and each has its perks and drawbacks.
    PFS - (Pool Filter sand) what most of us use, its cheap and very clean out of the bag, does not alter the Ph and is inert. Its con is the size bag you have to buy (usually 50# bag, which will be more then you'll ever need) Could try and ask someone for some on the box here, you only really need a small bit)
    Argonite - ground coral sand, sold in smaller bags, but way more expensive. It buffers the TDS and Ph up to 8.2+ Its used in marine or African Rift lake tanks to help buffer the PH to what is their more natural enviroment.
    Play box sand - Home depot has it and its cheap, but way DIRTY. Wash it a million times and when the water runs clear do it 5 more. Once cklean it is basically PFS, just a bit more golden.
    Craft Sand - Likely your best option, get it at Micheals or Hobby Lobby. Sold in tiny bags (perfect for you), but can be dirty and any 'colored' sand will likely act up. It might be dyed or who knows what. I'd rinse it good and watch it in a bucket for a few days to see its acting normal before doing a tank swap just to be sure its not going to be an issue.

    Use your Stability and just work through your cycles again, these should be smaller and it will take far less time with a seasoned filter.
    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
    Desiderius Erasmus
    GHAC President

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    • #77
      Ok I'll post to see if anyone might have an extra 5# s since it is a 3.5 g tank that should be plenty I think. I might look at moving the tufa rock in there as well because I want to add a big piece or a few medium pieces of holey rock to my tank with the black sand I think it should really pop and I found waterproof 24 led strips on amazon for $9 and was thinking a blue one for night when I have the main lights off.
      29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

      30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


      5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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      • #78
        Gotta restart my daughters tank cause I found 2 out of the 3 zebras dead and the powder blue staying at the top of the tank but alive. I have moved the surviving zebra to my tank to school with mine and moved the powder also so I can watch it.
        29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

        30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


        5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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        • #79
          Do you have a test kit? What are the parameters of the water. You dont have to restart it. If the parameters are ok then the fish had other problems.
          75g Tank,
          2- Wild Scalare Angel 2-wild Angel snakeskin, 2-half blue half black Angels, 5-Guianacara Geayi, 4- Blue Rams(1m/3f), 1- L144, 1- Pleco unknown type 1-Blue Neon Goby
          2.5g Mini Monter - Shrimp Tank
          10-RCS, 1-Red Sakura 5-Malawa, 8-Boraras Brigittie, 1-Adonis Pleco, 1-Zebra Nerite, 1-Horned Nerite
          10g Tank
          Hospital 2-F. Endlers

          2-29g Empty Tank, 20L Empty Tank , 125g Empty Tank[SIGPIC]sigpic

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          • #80
            I have the ammonia and ph suction cup testers. The ph was 6.2 and ammonia below .02. But I already changed everything out and found my wife was feeding after I was and there was an extreme amount of decaying food.
            29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

            30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


            5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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            • #81
              Ok well in 2 days the ph in my daughters 3.5 has gone from 8.4 to 6.8. No clue how or why but that tank keeps dropping ph.
              29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

              30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


              5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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              • #82
                What kind of substrate do you have there. What is the ph straight from the tap in your house. Ph of 6.5 is great for some fish. Mainly shrimp, but as why it is dropping with out you adding anything that is a good question.

                Yes fish can die from over feeding and from decay food. When over feed has happen just do constant water changes and try to vacuall the food on the bottom.
                75g Tank,
                2- Wild Scalare Angel 2-wild Angel snakeskin, 2-half blue half black Angels, 5-Guianacara Geayi, 4- Blue Rams(1m/3f), 1- L144, 1- Pleco unknown type 1-Blue Neon Goby
                2.5g Mini Monter - Shrimp Tank
                10-RCS, 1-Red Sakura 5-Malawa, 8-Boraras Brigittie, 1-Adonis Pleco, 1-Zebra Nerite, 1-Horned Nerite
                10g Tank
                Hospital 2-F. Endlers

                2-29g Empty Tank, 20L Empty Tank , 125g Empty Tank[SIGPIC]sigpic

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by R_sustaita View Post

                  ...When over feed has happen just do constant water changes and try to vacuall the food on the bottom.
                  Vacuall...sounds like an alternative to Python, where do you get those??
                  "I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability." -Oscar Wilde

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                  • #84
                    Ipad changed the word lol, it was vacum lol
                    75g Tank,
                    2- Wild Scalare Angel 2-wild Angel snakeskin, 2-half blue half black Angels, 5-Guianacara Geayi, 4- Blue Rams(1m/3f), 1- L144, 1- Pleco unknown type 1-Blue Neon Goby
                    2.5g Mini Monter - Shrimp Tank
                    10-RCS, 1-Red Sakura 5-Malawa, 8-Boraras Brigittie, 1-Adonis Pleco, 1-Zebra Nerite, 1-Horned Nerite
                    10g Tank
                    Hospital 2-F. Endlers

                    2-29g Empty Tank, 20L Empty Tank , 125g Empty Tank[SIGPIC]sigpic

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                    • #85
                      With a substantial change like that could you put a cup of your tap on the counter and cover it. Test that cup 24hrs later.

                      That will show if the water isn't buffered enough and crashing, could also explain your deaths.
                      700g Mini-Monster tank

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                      • #86
                        The deaths happened before substrate change I started a stability cycle and plan to add endlers and shrimp to the tank since it keeps going to a low ph but they can handle the low ph.
                        29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

                        30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


                        5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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                        • #87
                          Anyone near Deer Park got a full test kit and willing to test my water for me to try and diagnose the problem with the tank?
                          29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

                          30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


                          5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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                          • #88
                            If you were planning on coming to the northside tank tour and can't find anyone by then, bring some of your water and we'll test it for you.
                            "I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability." -Oscar Wilde

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                            • #89
                              I will save some just to find out but I should be getting the 10 for her on Thursday or Friday and be starting that soon just gonna need to get more sand and some plants for it.
                              29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

                              30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


                              5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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                              • #90
                                Good call, never hurts to know for next time! Plus you can see how awesome my drop test kit is.
                                "I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability." -Oscar Wilde

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