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  • #16
    Indeed, we actually had a lengthy discussion at the last dart frog meeting about assassins. Upon comparing notes we realized that there are quite a few differences amongst just our own tanks that seems to manifest strange or incompatible data concerning their behavior. As the only freshwater member of the whelk family, I am not entirely certain familial diagnoses will help as I assume they diverge quite some time ago. I will say that in observing them they do act like some whelks I have seen in footage, but I have yet to see and defense mechanism in my handling over the years. Mine certainly do predate on each other though, as I will have a bloom (50-100) tiny offspring and in a matter of a week only 3-5 survive the initial parental cannabilism. More food in the tank will yield higher ratios and I assume larger tanks can support larger colonies.
    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
    Desiderius Erasmus
    GHAC President

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    • #17
      I've also heard that the presence of an operculum may defer them, as I've seen that they do not eat my apples... but I've only kept them with large adults, not babies.
      my fish house:
      2.5g- ramshorn hatchery
      6g eclipse- yellow shrimp, chili rasboras, yellow apple snails
      29g- geo grow-out, angels, 12"fire eel, dwarf frog, apple snails
      45g- jade sleeper gobies, native killifish, feeder endlers

      75g-
      2 oscars, parrot, silver dollars, albino channel cat, syno euptera, bichir, baby jaguar, convicts, yabby
      125g- fahaka puffer, rainbow shark
      and about a dozen bettas....

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      • #18
        On the subject of babies, I just realized that my Assassins had babies. Starting to notice the babies emerging from the sand substrate. They don't seem to like climbing the glass in pursuit of my mystery snails, but rather forage on the bottom were they eat all my puffer's stock of garbage snails.
        Will trade Fish Stuff for Camera Lens and Anime Figures.







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        • #19
          sweet! mine are breeding also. side note- poison is toxic if ingested but harmless if injected. venom is toxic if injected but harmless if ingested... so this would be a venom question. :)
          my fish house:
          2.5g- ramshorn hatchery
          6g eclipse- yellow shrimp, chili rasboras, yellow apple snails
          29g- geo grow-out, angels, 12"fire eel, dwarf frog, apple snails
          45g- jade sleeper gobies, native killifish, feeder endlers

          75g-
          2 oscars, parrot, silver dollars, albino channel cat, syno euptera, bichir, baby jaguar, convicts, yabby
          125g- fahaka puffer, rainbow shark
          and about a dozen bettas....

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          • #20
            I think I swallowed some of that milky stuff when I was doing a water change last night. None of my algae eating family seems dead and nor am I dead.
            Will trade Fish Stuff for Camera Lens and Anime Figures.







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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jozle View Post
              nor am I dead.
              Said the zombie
              I went off the deep end

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Parzival View Post
                Said the zombie

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Jozle View Post
                  I think I swallowed some of that milky stuff when I was doing a water change last night. None of my algae eating family seems dead and nor am I dead.
                  there are so many horrible jokes to be made here...
                  my fish house:
                  2.5g- ramshorn hatchery
                  6g eclipse- yellow shrimp, chili rasboras, yellow apple snails
                  29g- geo grow-out, angels, 12"fire eel, dwarf frog, apple snails
                  45g- jade sleeper gobies, native killifish, feeder endlers

                  75g-
                  2 oscars, parrot, silver dollars, albino channel cat, syno euptera, bichir, baby jaguar, convicts, yabby
                  125g- fahaka puffer, rainbow shark
                  and about a dozen bettas....

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by allysangels View Post
                    sweet! mine are breeding also. side note- poison is toxic if ingested but harmless if injected. venom is toxic if injected but harmless if ingested... so this would be a venom question. :)
                    so i will be okay if a spitting cobra lands some venom in my mouth?
                    75G Standard - High Light Planted Community Fish
                    28G Aquapod - Medium Light Planted Shrimp & Microrasboras
                    12G Eclipse - Bonsai Planted Betta & Shrimp
                    29G Standard - Vivarium w/ Red Devil Crabs
                    45G Exo-Terra - Terrarium w/ Hermit Crabs (in progress)
                    33G Cubish - Vivarium w/ D.auratus 'blue & bronze'

                    GHAC Member

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                    • #25
                      i think spitting cobras are a combination... i know their venom can blind, more like mace. but you can drink rattlesnake venom, if you want to...
                      my fish house:
                      2.5g- ramshorn hatchery
                      6g eclipse- yellow shrimp, chili rasboras, yellow apple snails
                      29g- geo grow-out, angels, 12"fire eel, dwarf frog, apple snails
                      45g- jade sleeper gobies, native killifish, feeder endlers

                      75g-
                      2 oscars, parrot, silver dollars, albino channel cat, syno euptera, bichir, baby jaguar, convicts, yabby
                      125g- fahaka puffer, rainbow shark
                      and about a dozen bettas....

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by allysangels View Post
                        sweet! mine are breeding also. side note- poison is toxic if ingested but harmless if injected. venom is toxic if injected but harmless if ingested... so this would be a venom question. :)
                        hey that rhymes:)

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                        • #27
                          Sounds like the start of a B movie...
                          Nothing Kills Evil Like a Sharp Stick...

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                          • #28
                            many venoms are modified digestive enzymes, still wouldnt drink it. you can eat a hot burrito from the local stop n rob too
                            75G Standard - High Light Planted Community Fish
                            28G Aquapod - Medium Light Planted Shrimp & Microrasboras
                            12G Eclipse - Bonsai Planted Betta & Shrimp
                            29G Standard - Vivarium w/ Red Devil Crabs
                            45G Exo-Terra - Terrarium w/ Hermit Crabs (in progress)
                            33G Cubish - Vivarium w/ D.auratus 'blue & bronze'

                            GHAC Member

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                            • #29
                              Ewww. stop-n-rob burrito.... I always thought they made those things out of snail meat and cobra venom....
                              Nothing Kills Evil Like a Sharp Stick...

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                              • #30
                                Re: Assassin Snail Poison?

                                Lol those roach coach stands are delicious! I've heard some use stay cats and dogs

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