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    I have used flourish in the past but stopped when I noticed a few deaths in the tank. Is there any fert that doesn't contain copper that would be recommended?
    29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

    30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


    5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

  • #2
    There is Brightwell Aquatics FlorinMulti, which is a comprehensive broad spectrum micronutrient fertilizer. It does contain a trace of copper, but also contains Iodide and Iron. To be honest, we have used Flourish for years with no incident of shrimp mortality. Are you wanting a Macro fertilizer or Micro? None of the Macro will contain Copper, though I have never seen a micro that does not have it in some small amount.
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    • #3
      Sorry to highjack! Any recommendations on macro ferts?

      Oh and I've also been using Flourish in my tank with no deaths (at least not related to the fert). They've actually been breeding with me dosing it. I dosed about 6 hours ago at 50 drops and some landed on the babies. They just ignored it and ate like normal.

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      • #4
        You can use the three from Seachem, but dry are far cheaper and Green leaf has some decent deals
        Here is there Macro+Micro pack, but they offer all individually as well
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        • #5
          Shrimp safe fert

          Ill give the flourish another try but get a dropper to do my dosing with this time. Other than that I haven't used any other ferts. The only thing I have been adding is co2. I have been filling the diffuser that came with the fluval 20gram kit but I may switch to a normal diffuser for more space. What else should I be dosing? I have a few moss balls, anubias nana petite, a sword (not sure exact species), DHG and some floating HC.
          29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

          30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


          5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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          • #6
            moss balls - No real need, very minimal requirements
            anubias nana petite - Same, just clean leaves should algae/detritus buil up
            sword (not sure exact species) - With no real issues, should be fine. Can occasionally have Iron defeciency issues
            DHG - High Light and CO2, as long as everything looks good it should be fine
            HC - Same as DHG above

            Ferts and dosing should be for issues if you find one in your stock, then continue dosing to alleviate the issue in the future.
            In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
            Desiderius Erasmus
            GHAC President

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            • #7
              sorry to hijack

              whats best diy fert brand to use wthout copper ?
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              • #8
                I agree that IMO, dosing Flourish as recommended shouldn't be causing you shrimp deaths. Try the others if it makes you feel safer, but I wouldn't worry.
                I wouldn't suggest any other ferts unless you see a specific need, like if you had several red plants that began to lose their color, start dosing iron...if your nitrates are too low, dose nitrogen, stuff like that. I think the Flourish should be fine for what you have in there, about half of it is slow growing.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mnemenoi View Post
                  moss balls - No real need, very minimal requirements
                  anubias nana petite - Same, just clean leaves should algae/detritus buil up
                  sword (not sure exact species) - With no real issues, should be fine. Can occasionally have Iron defeciency issues
                  DHG - High Light and CO2, as long as everything looks good it should be fine
                  HC - Same as DHG above

                  Ferts and dosing should be for issues if you find one in your stock, then continue dosing to alleviate the issue in the future.
                  Originally posted by LooksLater View Post
                  I agree that IMO, dosing Flourish as recommended shouldn't be causing you shrimp deaths. Try the others if it makes you feel safer, but I wouldn't worry.
                  I wouldn't suggest any other ferts unless you see a specific need, like if you had several red plants that began to lose their color, start dosing iron...if your nitrates are too low, dose nitrogen, stuff like that. I think the Flourish should be fine for what you have in there, about half of it is slow growing.
                  +1 The only thing I can see that will really need any ferts is possibly the sword, DHG, and HC. The DHG and HC probably not so much, but with dosing it does help the plants grow and the color pop. Some of my plants were losing color when I didn't dose as much. Another partial solution for iron supplements is root tabs. I haven't had the need to really dose iron for the crypts because of them.

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                  • #10
                    Shrimp safe fert

                    Started dosing flourish and excel. Couldn't get an accurate amount using the cap so I went and got these ImageUploadedByTapatalk1364260841.422842.jpg. They are baby medicine droppers and they are working great for my nano.
                    29 Gallon SA Tank -- 5 Bleeding Heart Tetras, Mated Pair of Angels, 7 Green Corys, and a Rubberlip Pleco

                    30 Gallon Breeder -- 20+ neon tetras, 3 albino cories, 2 albino bristlenose plecos, female betta, 1 angel


                    5 Gallon Shrimp Nano - Sakura Red Shrimp, Boraras Brigittae, Oto Cats, Olive Nerites, and Pink Ramshorn

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Chris.d514 View Post
                      Started dosing flourish and excel. Couldn't get an accurate amount using the cap so I went and got these [ATTACH]18542[/ATTACH]. They are baby medicine droppers and they are working great for my nano.
                      I use them too, but now I just use an eye dropper because it's easier and more accurate. 20 drops = 1mL. You can get the baby medicine syringes (what you're using) from CVS or any pharmacy for free.

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