Endler's livebearers

[PhishPhreek]

Re: Endler's livebearers

The Endler's will cross with your guppies - you should keep them in separate tanks. - Good excuse to get a new 10g  

I have a small school of 20+/- endlers and will be happy to let you have a trio.  Are you planning a trip to the south side of town anytime soon ?

[guppymax]

Re: Endler's livebearers

I think the argument is over and endlers are no longer guppies. They have just been renamed Poecilia (Acanthophacelus) wingei. I am not sure anyone told the endlers yet so they may still cross breed with the guppies lol.

max

[MysticSunbeam]

Re: Endler's livebearers

Oh PhishPhreek, that would be so cool of you.  I live in Pearland so I'm probably not too far4 from you.  Send me an email MysticSunbeam@aol.com and I'll give you a phone number so we can set something up.

You wouldn't by any chance be interested in an aggressive ugly guppy-sized minnow-type fish, wouldja?  Just thought I'd ask....  I think I'm gonna give her away as Oscar bait if I don't have anyone who's interested soon.  Got her from a local shop as a Guppy, but her fins are placed slightly differently from a guppy's and she looks a little bent, maybe crooked too.  She's a fighter though--she nibbles on everyone's fins so I have to devote a breeding cubby to isolate her.  I also have some Molly fry that I can offer if you're interested.  I've never had Molly babies before, so I don't know how much they are likely to change as they grow, but right now they are black with some gold, and I can't tell if they're lyretails or not.  Maybe some of them are?  I have ten total.  Mama is gold lyretail with a few black speckles, sire is unknown, but likely black of some kind.

I understand my little Endler might crossbreed with my guppies, but that's okay.  I just want interesting, pretty fish.  Once a female drops fry, I give my choice for sire the right of prima nocte, but aside from that, it's kind of up to chance.   I just have one 29 gallon tank (and an isolation 2g tank for new purchases), and really don't have room for another tank.  It wouldn't hurt female Endlers to be in a tank with Guppy males, would it?  I mean, would the babies be too large and injure the females if they were impregnated by a Guppy?  Just having a male it doesn't matter, but I suppose it might for a female.  What do you think?

Brandi K.  :-)

[edkrueger]

Re: Endler's livebearers

well endlers, they came from laguna de patos in venezuela,there is a discussion about this fish.
some people say they are just guppies some other people say they are not.
but the bottom line its they are very brigth, colorfull, but small, and females a little beat bigger than the males.
i do have some , not many and i am interested in have some more, if somebody would like to trade some.
there is several lines.
i will post a link with lots of information about them

https://www.endlersr.us

another important thing, guppies and enldlers are capable of fertile hibrids, so dont mix them.
thats all i have to say, thank you for reading.

Its not hybrid beacuse Endler are Guppies.

[edkrueger]

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I have an Endler!  I bought a pair of them at my local Petco, being sold as Guppies.  I didn't know there was such a thing at the time, but I found out about them on the internet once I had them.  I thought they were just young interestingly-colored guppies.  Unfortunately, my female died, but little male Endler is having a ball trying to impregnate all my female guppies.  I don't think he knows he's a different species.  I have a community tank with one Gold Lyretail Molly pair, little ladies-man Endler, and lots of Guppies.

I keep very busy being a stay-at-home mom to a rambunctious toddler boy, but I do enjoy my small-scale one-tank livebearer husbandry hobby.  All my fish came from local pet stores, nothing terribly fancy or expensive.  I get some interesting combinations though.  One of my Guppies (born in my tank) even has an upswept fin like a shark.

I would like to get a couple of female Endlers if anyone has any they're willing to part with for really cheap--or for a trade.  My female Molly just had babies, and it looks like the sire was a Black Molly.  Her babies are black and gold.  Of course, there are always misc. Guppy fry...I think I have 27 at the moment, too young yet to be sexed.
Brandi K.  :-)

I got some endler hybrids at Petsmart.

[villa1973]

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ed if you ask me, i will say they are endlers,they behave diferent than guppies, and they are classified as poecilia wingei.
so they are hybrids.

[Mzungu]

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There's an article in this month's TFH about this, actually. Ted Coletti's column. Interesting read, IMO.

[edkrueger]

Re: Endler's livebearers

I tend to like group species more that seperate them (as do most sane scientists). If color and behavior is enough for speciation in guppies then we need to to make a new species for almost every guppy. With the  poecilia wingei president, guppy species can multiply as fast as guppies!