Plants help.!!!

[xavinovic]

I readjust the dosing but now I hate seeing the leaves on my plants with that brown algae on them I already try to remove some by hand but it's a lot of leaves is there another way to do this?

[Totenkampf]

You could do it that way but I thought he said he was dosing estimative index. The whole idea behind the estimative index is to overdose your plants so they don't lack any nutrients then adjust down if you want to after that. The extra nutrients won't cause algae but the lack of nutrients which leads to lack of plant growth allows algae to get a foothold in your tank.

well i have never used EI so maybe this is true. you say the extra nutrients wont cause algae but then also to adjust down after getting a baseline, so those two things conflict. i dont agree that extra nutrients will not lead to algae, i do strongly agree that lack of nutrients will limit higher plant growth and cause algae outbreaks. this was a hard lesson for many of us to learn back in the day when it was common to try to limit algae by limiting phosphates or iron. this is just my opinion though

[Totenkampf]

you could try dosing with hydrogen peroxide if it really bothers you, search on here for a post from complexity on how she does it. i have started using her method when i cant reduce the water level and spray H2O2 directly on the plants. i will allow this to react for about 15 minutes and then refill the aquarium, it isnt as effective always but it is less traumatic to the tank, especially if you have plants that are peroxide intollerant like subwassertang.

[xavinovic]

Can I just remove the plant out of the tank and do it on a separate container ?

[mistahoo]

you could try dosing with hydrogen peroxide if it really bothers you, search on here for a post from complexity on how she does it. i have started using her method when i cant reduce the water level and spray H2O2 directly on the plants. i will allow this to react for about 15 minutes and then refill the aquarium, it isnt as effective always but it is less traumatic to the tank, especially if you have plants that are peroxide intollerant like subwassertang.

Where is this thread? I've looked for threads under her username, but I can't seem to find the right one. Is it the one about the BBA? Interested in reading up on this process for future reference.

[Totenkampf]

it could be, she mainly doses H2O2 to cure BBA...if thats not it i will look in my ridiculously large bookmarks folder

[mistahoo]

There is a lot of talk about Hydrogen Peroxide in this thread.

[Bill]

well i have never used EI so maybe this is true. you say the extra nutrients wont cause algae but then also to adjust down after getting a baseline, so those two things conflict. i dont agree that extra nutrients will not lead to algae, i do strongly agree that lack of nutrients will limit higher plant growth and cause algae outbreaks. this was a hard lesson for many of us to learn back in the day when it was common to try to limit algae by limiting phosphates or iron. this is just my opinion though

You where telling him to just up the ferts little by little. I then stated that
" they don't lack any nutrients then adjust down if you want to after that"
I don't adjust down and estimative index doesn't adjust down, I just put that in there because you seemed to be worried about excess ferts.
In Freshwater systems that is well planted and stable excess PO4, excess NO3 and excess Fe will not cause algae. With new tanks that are unstable or tanks that you did a big rescape on without a water change theses are some of the things that make the plants unstable and allow algae to get started. In a CO2 tank I would always be sure to maintain my CO2 levels to prevent algae and lower the light if needed until the plants are stable and growing well.
Again this is freshwater, we know that excess nutrients do cause problems in marine environments.