Clearly I'm a little out of the loop on water changes and growing out fish (haven't done it actually). So, if I can negotiate a 75 somewhere, go with 8 -10 juvies ("juvies" being defined as about the size of a silver dollar), how many water changes (and percentages) are we thinking I need to do to avoid stunting them ?? Assumptions are the same; good filtration, bare tank, and lots of food. Be advised, I am not fearful of water changes, just wanting to know the recommended amount for the project. The end game is to have some discus that look like Mark's .......then maybe build out a community tank around them---- the plants, driftwood, some cardinals, couple of rams ....... your basic south american flavor ----- that would be really cool. Am trying to get as many of the variables covered beforehand ----- don't want to spend a couple of grand learning it all the hard way if I can help it.
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For the record --- as we speak I am growing out 7 angelfish in a 37 tall ----- bot them on 11/9/10 from Houston Aquatics -- the bodies were about a quarter in size. Using the 4 - 5 water changes (30 -40 %) along with alot of food has gotten them well over the size of silver dollars . Still have a lot go I realize, but that amount of water changes seems to be working. Are angels and discus somewhat different in their needs for growing up and out ??
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Yes other than altums discus are need far more care. I never messed with juvies because of the time. From my studies it is recommended to feed them as much as possible, I have seen people do as many as 6 feedings a day. How often you feed will dictate the amount of WC. But regardless I would say 70%+ a day would guarantee the best water conditions.
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I haven't seen any wilds in Houston in a while. Check out snookn (John) on simplydiscus.com he has wilds of all kinds at low prices. John is a nice guy too.
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Originally posted by Darbex View PostI haven't seen any wilds in Houston in a while. Check out snookn (John) on simplydiscus.com he has wilds of all kinds at low prices. John is a nice guy too.Chef~PIER 61 SEAFOOD
150G~discus and altums
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For wilds that's cheap as all these are adults in the 5"+ size. Discus aren't cheap for adults. Most adults non-wild run around $75+ per. Adult wilds run $125+ per
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I got my original wild RSGs from Dan when he had HAW for $75 ea. They were 3 to 4 inch sub-adults that finished growing in my tank.
MarkWhat are the facts? Again and again and again--what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore devine revelation, forget what "the stars foretell", avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable "verdict of history"--what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your only clue.
Robert Anson Heinlein
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Originally posted by wesleydnunder View PostI got my original wild RSGs from Dan when he had HAW for $75 ea. They were 3 to 4 inch sub-adults that finished growing in my tank.
Mark
You have some outstanding RSGs mark. I hope that I get to come across some beauties like yours!Chef~PIER 61 SEAFOOD
150G~discus and altums
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Yeah it's all up to you and what you want.
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Originally posted by Chef View PostYeah I understand that you're paying premium for wilds and to me they are worth it. But it's hard to buy a more than 2-3 discus at a time when people like snookn21 and Hans are charging 80-300 per fish. However, seeing your RSG have made me want to switch over to wilds maybe eventually some nhamunda blue heckels. !
however.. Good quality adult fish will always cost money up front.. but its a safer buy then juvies.. that cost less
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