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  • What have you learned? The experience thread!

    I know I'm not the only one who has learned a thing our four since starting up their aquarium. I know I'm not the only one who still has a lot more to learn!

    I figured I would at least share a few things that I know I'll do differently next time, hopefully others have some lessons learned to share too!
    • Understand Access - That was a pun. Go me. Anyway, I've been very limited with my filtration options due to the fact that my stand has doors that open from the sides, not the front. This means no sump. It means no filter larger than a XP3 or Fluval 405. It means getting to my filtration is a ***** and a half. And, it means that mounting my electrical strips in any manner that could be deemed "organized".
    What would I do differently? Easy, front access is key IMO. I had my heart set on a big powerful canister, not knowing that what my heart was set on wasn't even close to being powerful enough. I know I'll go with a sump next time, which means ease of access will be even more important, not to mention the ability to flat out fit it in (thats what she said). CAC here I come.

    • Aquascape - My rocks get in the way of everything. I guess I should have known they would, I have a ton of them. Well, 250lbs of them. In my opinion, my scape looks great, but maintaining it is a *****. I placed large rocks too close to the side glass to be able to clean it with the magnetic algae thingy. I made lovely caves for my fish to hide in. I made lovely caves for my fish to hoard their fishy poop in.
    What would I do differently? Remember that I'm going to have to clean this thing. Easy access to the glass all the way around the tank. Be careful about stacking rocks, because even though your fish might not knock something around, you're dumb self probably will when you're trying to do something equally stupid like find the cucumber slice you let float around too long.

    I'd also plan out my flow better. Where will I have my current directed, how will it stir up debris, and where will my filter intakes be? Which, leads me to...


    • Pre-drilled tanks, intakes, discharge, overflows, bulkheads, stress and flood insurance - Ok, so this one is a mix of aesthetics, operability, and the ability to sleep at night. When I was shopping for a tank, I was all about having a pre-drilled (from the bottom) tank. Looking back, having a holes in the bottom of the tank has completely dictated where the intake/discharge of one of my filters will be. Plus, a little peace of mind (piece of mind? I actually have never written that phrase before... funny when you type things you hear/say all the time for the first time. Of course, the opposite is true - I feel like an idiot going to fish stores and trying to pronounce species names I'm quite capable of spelling!). I have two holes in the bottom of a big glass bucket full of water. A big glass 90 gallon bucket full of 90 gallons of wet, fish-filled water. Did I say there were holes in the bottom?
    What would I do differently? Before I go rant on why drilled tanks are bad, let me step back. I don't think they're bad. I think my approach to them is bad. It was very much a "oh boy, oh boy, a new tank, let me hook it all up and fill it with water and will be awesome and I will love it" situation. I think I did a pretty good job hooking up all my tubing and tightening all the bulkheads, but I dont KNOW that I did a good job, and if I did know that I did a good job, I wouldn't be satisfied unless I knew I did a great, impossibly perfect, no chance in hell anything bad will EVER happened job.

    Still, next time, even if I had put in the effort to make sure everything was absolutely perfect, I would not go with a drilled tank - that is, I would not go with a drilled tank with holes on the bottom. I'd take an approach that a lot of you have, and that I've seen on a lot of the reef forums. A mounted overflow that doesn't extend all the way to the bottom, allowing for a siphon that wouldn't siphon your tank empty should it fail. All my intakes and ouputs would be drilled from the back glass, allowing almost all equipment to be hidden except for the discharges.


    I know there's more I've learned and forgotten, but it will come. Hopefully y'all have some to share too! If not, this has been a beer inspired rant/info session by your friend Crude/Ben. Everything you've read is my opinion, only, and I'm compleeeeetely welcoming of "this is why you're an idiot" coaching.

    And, for you're enjoyment, the most (only) good fish pics I've ever taken! Someone's learning how to use a cameeraaaa haha.

    Oh, and I'm now enacting a rule of this thread (psh, assuming anyone ever posts in it, I might be getting ahead of myself!) You cant post pictures unless you also post your experiences







    How bout you guys!?

  • #2
    sweet pics bro !
    Don't tell fish stories where people know you; but particularly, don't tell them where they know the fish.
    Mark Twain

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    • #3
      I'm learning something very important, especially when it comes to cichlid tanks...

      Size matters!

      I thought I was hot stuff when I got my 90g tank, but now I'm realizing that it's just barely big enough to house the fish I'm wanting to keep. My mind is altering the furniture in the room... What can I move? What can I get rid of? Maybe I don't need a TV anymore? Could I squeeze in another foot of tank space if I push this over there?

      And then there's the thoughts of whether I can put a bigger tank in this other room? Or what about that room? Or maybe I can move this one over there and get rid of that and hang that over there and maybe then I can fit a bigger tank in!

      Yeah. 90g is nothing. I haven't even dared tell my husband my mind is straying into thoughts of a bigger tank.
      Vicki

      • 90g Planted - Journal - New Pics Mar23
      • 75g Planted - Journal (on PT)
      • 29g Planted - Journal
      • 29g Planted
      • 5g Planted RCS

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      • #4
        My biggest lesson....

        Do a water change then WALK AWAY!!

        Fish (freshwater) will adapt to just about anything, be it lower/higher pH, hardness, even elevated levels of nitrates. At first I would read and read, then try to manipulate my water to create a "perfect" habitat. At the end of the day, keeping those modifications were more a hassle than anything, and the fluctuations in parameters were far more stressful than just using good old tap water. As long as you do a proper water change, it can't hurt the fish. So now if I see anything is off, I just do a water change, then walk away. No fiddling with equipment or media, no additives or resins. Just water change then walk away.


        #2 would have to be pretty simple as well.

        Get the fish you want.

        It sounds stupid, but I have learned to never walk into a fish shop and impulse buy. Getting fish just for the sake of putting more fish in a tank is a waste of time and money. You are never truely satisfied with what you have, and it leads to poor fish pairing and overcrowding. In short, do the research, find a shop that will have what you want or can get it, and have some patience. It pays off to have exactly what you want rather than a bunch of second picks...
        75 planted (Being Renovated)
        Endlers
        gobies
        lots of nanos

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        • #5
          This thread makes me look back. WOW! I have been doing this a long time. and I still learn new lessons. Never had a drilled tank But I will take your word on why not to have one. One thing I did learn here is your Rocks can hold bad things( nitrates nitrites and amon.) and release these things in to your water. So thin layers of rock for Angel or Discus is best if any at all.
          But I agree with Sea-agg on more thin just the water changes. Patience is one of the most importent lessons. Nothing happens over night. your Fish will grow. your plants will grow. But nothing lives for ever. The Pationce to enjoy what you have. why you have them. Remember Changes are never permanent.
          Nothing Kills Evil Like a Sharp Stick...

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          • #6
            I have learned that most people are here to enjoy their hobby. Some are here to make money.
            Scarecrow : I haven't got a brain... only straw.
            Dorothy : How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
            Scarecrow: I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?
            Dorothy: Yes, I guess you're right.

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            • #7
              I have learned that if you make shorter posts, then you can up your post count more quickly.
              Scarecrow : I haven't got a brain... only straw.
              Dorothy : How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
              Scarecrow: I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?
              Dorothy: Yes, I guess you're right.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by armthehomeless View Post
                I have learned that if you make shorter posts, then you can up your post count more quickly.
                And you get more thanks... which is the real scale of awesomeness here.
                75 planted (Being Renovated)
                Endlers
                gobies
                lots of nanos

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                • #9
                  Those out to make money in this hobby rarely make it far.
                  700g Mini-Monster tank

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                  • #10
                    Never let those that are scared to try anything new or just plain like sheep say you can't do something.
                    700g Mini-Monster tank

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                    • #11
                      When you are too scared to try something new don't discourage others
                      700g Mini-Monster tank

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                      • #12
                        Anything is pretty much possible
                        700g Mini-Monster tank

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                        • #13
                          There is rarely a specific or single right way of doing something
                          700g Mini-Monster tank

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                          • #14
                            Some things you really have to "Go big, or go home".
                            700g Mini-Monster tank

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                            • #15
                              When you think "it's" enough, double or even triple it.
                              700g Mini-Monster tank

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