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    Not sure if I was the only one who wondered what a "Dagon" was(Ek's avator line is "the original Dagon") so I did a little research and here is what I found(thanks Wiki').

    From Wiki

    "Fish-god tradition
    Rashi records a tradition that the name Dāgôn is related to Hebrew dāg/dâg 'fish' and that Dagon was imagined in the shape of a fish: compare the Babylonian fish-god Oannes. In the thirteenth century David Kimhi interpreted the odd sentence in 1 Samuel 5.2–7 that "only Dagon was left to him" to mean "only the form of a fish was left", adding: "It is said that Dagon, from his navel down, had the form of a fish (whence his name, Dagon), and from his navel up, the form of a man, as it is said, his two hands were cut off." The Septuagint text of 1 Samuel 5.2–7 says that both the arms and the legs of the image of Dagon were broken off.[5]

    H. Schmökel asserted in 1928[6] that Dagon was never originally a fish-god, but once he became an important god of those maritime Canaanites, the Phoenicians, the folk-etymological connection with dâg would have ineluctably affected his iconography.[7]

    Dagon is sometimes identified with Matsya, the fish avatar of Vishnu, who jumped into the ocean to fight a demon. A statue in Keshava temple in Somnathpur, India depicts Matsya as a fish from the waist down. The fish form may be considered as a phallic symbol as seen in the story of the Egyptian grain god Osiris, whose penis was eaten by (conflated with) fish in the Nile after he was attacked by the Typhonic beast Set. Likewise, in the tale depicting the origin of the constellation Capricornus, the Greek god of nature Pan became a fish from the waist down when he jumped into the same river after being attacked by Typhon.

    Various 19th century scholars, such as Julius Wellhausen and William Robertson Smith, believed the tradition to have been validated from the occasional occurrence of a merman motif found in Assyrian and Phoenician art, including coins from Ashdod and Arvad.

    John Milton uses the tradition in his Paradise Lost Book 1:

                                         ... Next came one
    Who mourned in earnest, when the captive ark
    Maimed his brute image, head and hands lopt off,
    In his own temple, on the grunsel-edge,
    Where he fell flat and shamed his worshippers:
    Dagon his name, sea-monster, upward man
    And downward fish; yet had his temple high
    Reared in Azotus, dreaded through the coast
    Of Palestine, in Gath and Ascalon,
    And Accaron and Gaza's frontier bounds."

  • #2
    Re: The Original Dagon

    you could have just rented the movie,  
    I dont think you would have got as much out of it!!

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    • #3
      Re: The Original Dagon

      ya, ya, ya, i know im a nerd at times

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      • #4
        Re: The Original Dagon

        ADA mini-m planted
        ADA mini-m riparium
        ADA 30-C nano reef
        ADA 90-P community Tanganyikan
        ADA 120-p overflow Full reef in progress
        Eheim 90cm SA biotope
        110g Peacocks

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        • #5
          Re: The Original Dagon

          thats good

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          • #6
            Re: The Original Dagon

            you all aint right!!!

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            • #7
              Re: The Original Dagon

              Yeah! useless facts! I'm full of em    example:
              Do you know it takes 3.5pints of beer to get a beaver drunk?
              That, and you have to feel sorry for poor Osiris, that would be painful
              Welcome to the dark side, we have cookies!!!

              "I'm an instant star. Just add water and stir." - David Bowie

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              • #8
                Re: The Original Dagon

                Here I was thinkin' it was a form of the Southern "Dawg gone", or as used in colloquial speech " Da'g'on' ", and found in modern day Greek and Persian (Iranian) texts written in the common form "Dagon".
                Boy, was I wrong!
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                • #9
                  Re: The Original Dagon

                  that is a really nice pic of EK..
                  380G For Sale $3000 Acrylic tank & stand
                  300G Petrochromis Trewavasae and Tropheus mpimbwe Red Cheek & Duboisi
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                  • #10
                    Re: The Original Dagon

                    just saw this thread......SN, Joker.
                    700g Mini-Monster tank

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                    • #11
                      Re: The Original Dagon

                      Originally posted by screename";p="

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                      • #12
                        Re: The Original Dagon

                        Maybe I should use that as my avatar.....
                        700g Mini-Monster tank

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                        • #13
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                          do it.  it could be an inside joke for all the members here now.  Then when new people join they will be asking what the hell your avator is all about.

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                          • #14
                            Re: The Original Dagon

                            I could make a nice photoshop of it if you like.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Original Dagon

                              ^^^^  DO IT    
                              ADA mini-m planted
                              ADA mini-m riparium
                              ADA 30-C nano reef
                              ADA 90-P community Tanganyikan
                              ADA 120-p overflow Full reef in progress
                              Eheim 90cm SA biotope
                              110g Peacocks

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