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    Your thoughts? I would like an intelligent debate. I don't want to talk about anything else but his tax plan, and its ultimate effect on this country.

    I'll start:

    I honestly think that the tax plan, as it is now, will discourage small businesses from expanding. I think it will force them to reduce part-time employee hours, cut "fringe" benefits small businesses are great for, and even cause layoffs in certain cases.

    I also foresee prices rising to offset profits lost from the new taxes at first - but later prices will drop due to stagnant sales, forcing employees to be laid off. In turn, fewer people will have money to spend, and more small businesses will be forced to shut down.

    I think the same will be found in large businesses and corporations as well. Shareholders will demand that profits are kept or shares will be sold. causing a downturn in the market. The DOJ will continue to drop because as corporations try all the tactics in the above paragraph, they will still ultimately lose money, and thus shares will be sold.

    I also we will see fewer new small businesses start up, as those who are successful will be less likely to start or venture in a partnership for a new business, but instead hoard their money in low interest bearing accounts.

    Rebuttals? Is there anyone that point for point can explain to me how the Obama tax plan will prevent this from happening, and what will actually happen instead?

    Finally, I added a simple poll: Whether you agree with it or not, will you in fact prosper from Obama's Tax plan? I actually have to check "YES" as I am technically in the lower-middle class and will get a bigger tax break under the plan, even though I fundamentally disagree with it.
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    YES - I will recieve a higher income tax return.
    0.00%
    0
    NO - I will be taxed more than I am now.
    100.00%
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    I will receive a higher tax return but in the end this will bite us because what I will cost the country from a business stand point. You can not tax the owners and not expect them to pass on the costs or cut jobs to assume the costs.
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    • #3
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      Jeebus...

      This plan is similar to Clinton Tax plan which was almost the same as Regans.

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      • #4
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        I have no clue what is going to actually transpire, I heard at one point that 250K was the cut off point for his program, then I heard it was 200K, then 150, etc....who knows, what is going to happen, we can only hope for a "positive change"

        No vote

        Don't be surprised if there is a major announcement by the end of the year about a new monetary program coming.
        Ron Paul says the dollar is all but history at this point. We'll see?

        CF
        Truth is the cement that holds the bricks and stones of a sane and civilized society together. Remove the former and the latter will crumble.

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        • #5
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          It seems most of us will benefit from this tax plan. I really hope that we can trickle up the wealth as Obama suggests.
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          • #6
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            Who's "Regan"?

            And it's not...nowhere close...don't take that for gospel without challenging it...it's untrue
            Charles Jones
            http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-dems-i...unders-intent/

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by marauder_77868";p="
              Who's "Regan"?

              And it's not...nowhere close...don't take that for gospel without challenging it...it's untrue
              Is that a reply to my comment about what RP said ?

              CF
              Truth is the cement that holds the bricks and stones of a sane and civilized society together. Remove the former and the latter will crumble.

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              • #8
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                No...no...it was a response to Delock's comment
                Charles Jones
                http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-dems-i...unders-intent/

                A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have. --Thomas Jefferson
                Guns are responsible for killing people much the way pencils are responsible for misspelling words.

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                • #9
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                  Hard work and striving for more is being discouraged more and more in this country. Having money or not does not make one a bad person. It's the choices one makes that puts them in their position that determines good or bad.

                  That said, Obama's tax plan encourages bad behavior (Laziness, envy and lack of independence and responsibility) with financial reward and punishes good behavior (Hard work, independence, responsibility and personal growth and gain) with financial penalties.

                  Let's put it in a context everyone can understand. We're all back in school and we have a test tomorrow. nick, you study all night to do well missing a party. I go out and have a blast at the party. Nick, you're in class on time and make a 100% on the test. I drag in late and hung over, didn't study and fail with a 40%. Mr Obama, our teacher decides that this isn't fair so we both get a 70%

                  Is that fair to either of us? No!

                  This is essentially Obama's Tax plan
                  All men are created equal but his choices determine his value and what's in his heart determines his worth.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Darbex";p="
                    I will receive a higher tax return but in the end this will bite us because what I will cost the country from a business stand point. You can not tax the owners and not expect them to pass on the costs or cut jobs to assume the costs.
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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by ImaGuyGeek";p="
                      Hard work and striving for more is being discouraged more and more in this country. Having money or not does not make one a bad person. It's the choices one makes that puts them in their position that determines good or bad.

                      That said, Obama's tax plan encourages bad behavior (Laziness, envy and lack of independence and responsibility) with financial reward and punishes good behavior (Hard work, independence, responsibility and personal growth and gain) with financial penalties.

                      Let's put it in a context everyone can understand. We're all back in school and we have a test tomorrow. nick, you study all night to do well missing a party. I go out and have a blast at the party. Nick, you're in class on time and make a 100% on the test. I drag in late and hung over, didn't study and fail with a 40%. Mr Obama, our teacher decides that this isn't fair so we both get a 70%

                      Is that fair to either of us? No!

                      This is essentially Obama's Tax plan
                      So I get to be the example again? 8O
                      PLECOS SUCK!

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                      • #12
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                        I just want to know how anyone can justify this plan. You ran away from the other thread so here we are again.
                        All men are created equal but his choices determine his value and what's in his heart determines his worth.

                        "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

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                          I run when you throw your stinky sandals at me!
                          PLECOS SUCK!

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                          • #14
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                            Again with the diversionary tactics but seriously, how can you justify this plan?
                            All men are created equal but his choices determine his value and what's in his heart determines his worth.

                            "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

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                            • #15
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                              Okay, if not Nick anybody? Can ANYONE explain how this makes sense??? One of you libs out there must be able to justify this type of twisted thought process in some disturbing way.

                              HELLO??? ANYONE???
                              All men are created equal but his choices determine his value and what's in his heart determines his worth.

                              "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

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