Tea party, REALLY?

[ImaGuyGeek]

I would like to apologize up front for the verbose nature of this post.

So, not surprising, when challenged to support his postings Nick runs and hides. Well, I can shed some light on this phenomenon.

After some research, it turns out that our fellow HFB'er found a new Facebook group "Americans Against the Tea Party". Apparently this is porn for liberals and our fellow boxer read this page and got himself worked up into a frenzy. Once all worked up and excited, what else can you do but find a release. So, Nick, in a frenzy of liberal excitement did what I guess made sense to any liberal, he came to HFB and spewed all over us. If you visit this page, you will see that Nick's flurry of links and posts were taken from this page and it's members almost verbatim. Almost every word including "She;s a Witch" and Tea Party Republicans", all the links, taken directly from this FB page. This explains why Nick was incapable of providing any personal thoughts or opinions to support his position, because they were not his thoughts. There were no independent thoughts to be shared. This was simply an "All Out" assault waged by Nick on the more moderate and conservative members of HFB (some of whom he likes to call friends) with his new found source of ammunition.

The really bizarre take away from this for me is this... Nick always plays the Victim card. He will speak out against hate and claim to be picked on or ganged up on BUT this is Nick's self fulfilling prophecy you see. He finds a new "Hate Site" and comes to HFB and spews his new found hate source messages at HFB'ers. And what happens? He further alienates himself and instead of taking ownership of his actions, he plays the victim again.

A victim of his own actions and his own hatred.

[ImaGuyGeek]

And for the record, No this is not an attack. This is informational to help everyone here understand what happened here with Nick's sudden flurry of hate attacking Christine O'Donnell, Republicans and the Tea Party. I was confused about where this came from since it seemingly came out of left field so I sought clarification when Nick refused to provide it himself. This information is akin to Nick's referring to Fox News as the source of information for the Moderate and Conservative members of HFB

[CichlidFan]

This thread was actually quite educational to me....i don't mind folks expressing themselves, even if I do happen to disagree with their position.

I appreciate the new forums here on the box, where we are given the freedom to express ourselves....along with that appreciation, I find a touch of tolerance is necessary now and then....


CF

Glen: thanks for your posting of that very interesting video.

[ImaGuyGeek]

This thread was actually quite educational to me....i don't mind folks expressing themselves, even if I do happen to disagree with their position.

I appreciate the new forums here on the box, where we are given the freedom to express ourselves....along with that appreciation, I find a touch of tolerance is necessary now and then....


CF

Glen: thanks for your posting of that very interesting video.

I agree completely. I would (and have) ask for more discussion and debate. Much Like you do when you post your videos or stories. You share your personal thoughts and discuss the issues. i.e. You offer a personal perspective, opinion and position on what you are posting. Thank you for that contribution CF. Even if we don't always agree :) I respect that.

[jeebus]

So I take it Nick bowed out of the World News and Current Events sub-forum?

[ImaGuyGeek]

So I take it Nick bowed out of the World News and Current Events sub-forum?

I think he just refuses to answer any questions or have an actual discussion. I know he was here a little while ago.

[Delock]

What is the difference between the Republicans and the Tea Party?

[imagirlgeek]

To be honest, I think it's kind of like the difference between "Democrats" and "Progressives". I mean, really, the Tea Party movement all started because people were tired of all the new taxes and excessive spending, hence the name "Tea Party". And the Republicans were getting almost as bad at spending as the Democrats are, plus people didn't feel like their voices were being heard, so the Tea Party emerged as a group generally just sick and tired of all the big government spending. That's how it all got started.

If you're asking the question because you want me to say Republicans and the Tea Party are one in the same, then I would have to say, Yes....and No. Are they more conservative than Democrats? For sure! But they won't align themselves with the Republicans either. It's an overall dissatisfaction with all of the 'official' political parties.

[Darbex]

Great analogy Traci. I couldnt have put it better.

[CichlidFan]

I beleive too, that part of the foundation for the movement that later became known as the tea party was formed from smaller town meetings of groups of people who are members of Ron Pauls "Campaign For Liberty" ....I'm not saying all tea party members are part of this group, maybe a significant percentage however....who really knows....

I am a member of the CFL....not to be confused with the CFR....smiles.

CF

[Delock]

To be honest, I think it's kind of like the difference between "Democrats" and "Progressives". I mean, really, the Tea Party movement all started because people were tired of all the new taxes and excessive spending, hence the name "Tea Party". And the Republicans were getting almost as bad at spending as the Democrats are, plus people didn't feel like their voices were being heard, so the Tea Party emerged as a group generally just sick and tired of all the big government spending. That's how it all got started.

If you're asking the question because you want me to say Republicans and the Tea Party are one in the same, then I would have to say, Yes....and No. Are they more conservative than Democrats? For sure! But they won't align themselves with the Republicans either. It's an overall dissatisfaction with all of the 'official' political parties.

But when you look at Sarah Palin she is a Republican who is a Tea Party memeber. Steele, is support the Tea Party movement as part of the Repulican camp. So can we really call it one or the other. It seem more along the lines of the Allies vs. the Axis!

[Darbex]

You dont have to be a republican to be a tea party member. The reason you see it dominated by republicans is the same reason like Traci said progressives are dominated by Democrats. The stance of the Tea party movement is conservative in nature which is where the Republican partys base is, much like Progressives are liberal in nature and that is where the Democrats base is. Now if the Americans grew up and became more enlightened in the political system and stopped allowing two corrupt parties from ruling the country we would have many more political parties and the Tea Party may actually be a real political party but due to the system we have allowed the Tea Party will never be a true political party it will remain until the Republican party envelops the ideas of the group and it will go away from national spot light much in the way Ralph Naders party did to the Dems in 2000. Europeans are much more enlightened in the political party system and hence why they have in most countries at least 3 or 4 strong parties.

[ImaGuyGeek]

But when you look at Sarah Palin she is a Republican who is a Tea Party memeber. Steele, is support the Tea Party movement as part of the Repulican camp. So can we really call it one or the other. It seem more along the lines of the Allies vs. the Axis!

Ralph Nader's Green Party is a good example. I would also add the following...

The Tea Party is to the Republicans

Like

SEIU, ACORN, UAW, Code Pink, NAACP, Rainbow Coalition, Teamsters, Media Matters, La Raza, The Teachers Union, AFL-CIO, Screen Actors Guild, National Endowment for the Arts, and many more are to the Democrats.

The Tea Party is a group of Americans that have a political agenda of lower taxes, less spending and smaller government. They will support any candidate that reflect their goals. It just so happens that most of the candidates that do have the same views are republican, Independent or Libertarian.

Very similar to the groups above that more often than not support Democrat candidates that support their agenda.

[Darbex]

"Screen Actors Guild" I thought it was Film Actors Guild . lol

[jeebus]

IMO, the Tea Party was formed from pissed-off Republicans tired of RINOs ruining the party's most traditional platform of low taxes, limited government, and free-market capitalism.

If the Party falls back in line I think we'll see the movement fade away. It was only created out of necessity to "right the Republican ship".