Why do people push a baby state today?

[ImaGuyGeek]

I would also add that, if the babysitters in Washington (or any government) want to regulate what people buy and create a nanny state, then start with the people who need it. All the broke beggers out there on entitlements who need babysitters. Regulate what people can buy with welfare and food stamps.

I work hard and don't need anyone else to pay my bills or raise my kids so if I want a happy meal with a toy in it for my kids, leave me and McD's the F alone and go fix what my tax dollars are being spent on because if I see one more woman with a litter of little brats screaming in the grocery store buying cookies and sodas with a Food Stamp card (my money) Ima round up all those little paycheck babies from their idiot mama and sell em all to Madonna and Angelina and use the proceeds to get that broke a$$ baby factory fixed.

[marauder_77868]

The underlying issue here is that liberals/socialists/progressives HATE CAPITALISM. Anything done to regulate it can't be anything but a positive in their eyes and this is just one more convenient excuse.

[wesleydnunder]

The underlying issue here is that liberals/socialists/progressives HATE CAPITALISM. Anything done do regulate it can't be anything but a positive in their eyes and this is just one more convenient excuse.

I'm not sure it's that they hate capitolism, Charles. For many, and this is opinion, I think they just want it both ways. They want to be able to be rich and have lots of things, just want someone else to do the hard work.

Mark

[wesleydnunder]

I would also add that, if the babysitters in Washington (or any government) want to regulate what people buy and create a nanny state, then start with the people who need it. All the broke beggers out there on entitlements who need babysitters. Regulate what people can buy with welfare and food stamps.

I work hard and don't need anyone else to pay my bills or raise my kids so if I want a happy meal with a toy in it for my kids, leave me and McD's the F alone and go fix what my tax dollars are being spent on because if I see one more woman with a litter of little brats screaming in the grocery store buying cookies and sodas with a Food Stamp card (my money) Ima round up all those little paycheck babies from their idiot mama and sell em all to Madonna and Angelina and use the proceeds to get that broke a$$ baby factory fixed.

LOL Charles. Years ago when my dad was raising us the welfare debate swept through the house and my mother asked my dad, "if we can't help those mothers that need help (and back then there were quite a few Vietnam widows with kids that mom wanted to help) then what would you do"? Dad was referring to permanent welfare mothers when he responded, " I'd give 'em each a dime." When I asked what a dime could do for the families dad replied, "Tell 'em to put it between their knees and hold it there and they can continue to receive help, but the first time that dime hits the floor, cut 'em off!"

Your comment about factories reminded me of that.

Mark

[ImaGuyGeek]

LOL Charles. Years ago when my dad was raising us the welfare debate swept through the house and my mother asked my dad, "if we can't help those mothers that need help (and back then there were quite a few Vietnam widows with kids that mom wanted to help) then what would you do"? Dad was referring to permanent welfare mothers when he responded, " I'd give 'em each a dime." When I asked what a dime could do for the families dad replied, "Tell 'em to put it between their knees and hold it there and they can continue to receive help, but the first time that dime hits the floor, cut 'em off!"

Your comment about factories reminded me of that.

Mark

Your father sounds like a wise man. Glad I could make you smile.

[jeebus]

Admittedly, not every American can afford it but that number is estimated to be below 8 million American Citizens. That is less than 3%

This is the truth in advertising that socialized health care proponants do not want you to know.

They just send you a massive bill that, depending on the severity of your emergency, you may never have the ability to pay back. Also keep in mind that the laws are written to make sure you receive this unaffordable health care if your emergency is severe enough. An example would be if you were badly injured in a car crash and rendered unconscious, whether or not you can afford it or not you will receive it, and you will be responsible for paying for it. ?

Are you suggesting all emergency medicine be free? Who's going to foot that bill?

[jeebus]

Out of the 59 million Americas that dont have health insurance. I seriously doubt that all have bling or boom!

But, we as Americans have become the most unhealthy country of them all. Fast food establishments are not looking at keeping us healthy only full. I take it everyone have seen the pictures of the happy meal that sat out for 6 months? If not I can post it. I wonder if they are teaching kids about the four basic food group!

Since when is it the job of Fast Food establishments to teach kids anything?

[jeebus]

Quick question, just to turn the discussion back on course. How is what SF is trying to do different that how the local and federal enforce alcahol and tobacco laws. It could be said that while yes, cigarettes and alcahol are bad for children, that it is the responsibility of the parents and not the retailers to make sure their children don't buy and consume the products?

Tobacco contains know carcinogens. How many foods has the FDA let pass that also have known carcinogens? And it is not against the law for a minor to smoke. It is against the law however for any adult to "contribute" to a minor, via the sale of tobacco.

As for alcohol, the ATF is a throw back to prohibition and is nothing more than a cash-cow for the government. The rules are little different for minors and alcohol due to the dangers involved via intoxication.

Steven you really need to get out from behind the monitor and go see for yourself.

Yup. One would truly be appalled if they knew what was really going on in the real world when it comes to those living on government assistance.