A Few questions about Possible Problems.

[278923]

I get sick and tired of getting the same junk on every forum and by now i COULDN'T CARE LESS what i shouldn't have. Once again, if i wanted to know that would be the title of the thread.

[soymilk]

I wish it was junk I posted. The thing I wrote are very relevant to keeping a stable tank. If you hear the same thing everywhere, did it not occur to you that everyone kinda knew what they were talking about? There are general rules everyone goes by. The rules can be broken if you know what you're doing. But you have no idea what you're doing. You have problems because you stocked too fast, fed too much, and there could be a problem with the source water. So now you have problems, you can't fix the problems without finding the cause. The cause is you. Your actions directly caused the bacterial bloom as well as the subsequent algae bloom. You then ask for help, we are telling you the reason why and what happened. And you cry.

Maybe you don't know how all this aquarium stuff works. But a tank does build up beneficial bacteria on it's own. If you used live rock, the proceeding die off from the rock could fuel the NH3 to kick start the cycle. You could have also added
Fish food or dead shrimp and monitored ammonia, nitrogen and nitrate to see when the cycle starts and is finished.

There's a reason why people say the same junk over and over again. Maybe it's time to actually listen and quit being so hardheaded. Perhaps I should explain the situation in a different way.

You have a tiny 300 sq foot room apartment. You then added 20 cats and 10 dogs. They eat and poop so much you can't keep up with keeping the room clean. The floor is so dirty some of the cats have to live in their own excrement and filth. Some get sick and won't even eat anymore. Then you hope on houstonpetbox and ask "omgwtfbbq why does it stinks in your room so much? Pew pew ..Why won't my other cats eat? Nom nom....Why's the floor so dirty?". You then scream to the heavens that no ones gonna tell you what to do. You're the king of you domain, and you will waste your money any way you see fit.

But seriously, I think your tank needs a blue hippo tang, then maybe a sweet Mandarin goby, then like 4-5 more clowns cuz tey r dA nEMo FiSH. They will totally host the condy because a condy is an anemone and all clownfish host all anemones. The get an snowflake eel, and then a fuzzy yellow lionfish. Thatll be a sweet tank bro. New fish to look at everyday!

[278923]

i "cry" about all you saying the same junk OVER AND OVER, I GET IT STOP REPEATING IT I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION AND DIDDN'T NEED AN ANSWER I HAD HEARD OVER AND OVER. By the way, I'm the way i am. I'm pretty sure i will keep doing things my way. How do you think my freshwater tank was started? With fish. Some other than guppies and mollies too. Great fun. And let me pretend to be retarded to humor you. Omg i was killer whale for my 14g set up and maybe even a emperor penguin. I have a zebra in my terrarium too.

[soymilk]

Its ok.. you don't have to pretend.

[278923]

i do if i want to humor you.

[stephen]

i have only been on this site a few months and have already learned that soy milk,darbex,my johnson, snookfish, and several others are very knowledgeable very helpful,and are willing to share there time and experience to help others work through there situations. I have asked questions and have been givin answers and guess what most everything I have learned has benifited my tank and it's inhabitants. so seriously guy take there advice ignore it if you want but don't piss off the people that can actually help because i promise you as much as you think you know about reef keeping this will not be the last road block you will run into along the way. not to mention the FACT that every answer you have been given is directly related to the question you asked including what you shouldn't have in your tank. not a single person on any of these post has said anything that should upset anybody except you. so from one novice to another chill out

[278923]

I don't know where in my post i asked what shouldn't i have in my tank but if you say so feel free to change my words as you please. I really couldn't care less what i should or shouldn't have in my tank what i beleive this post asked was...
1. Why the cloudiness?
2. Why the green water?
3. Why the white on the rock?
When you can copy and paste me a part of my post that asks what i should have and what i shouldn't have i'll "chill". Deal?
Whether he's knowledgable or not i want my questions answered not my style knit-picked. I still have yet to have ANY problems with this algae and to be honest i think it's complete crap that I *NEED* to take any drastic measures. Water stats are still 0, cycle is over. I have algae-fix and i'll just wait the time out rather than "OMG GET RID OF EVERYTHING!"

By the way soy, go celebrate 2 clowns were added. a long tentacle is next.

[stephen]

i really don't understand how it is so hard for you to understand fish&corals= bio load too much bio load = excess nutrients excess nutrients=cloudiness, green water, white on rock. so yeah it's been repeated yet again hoping it might sink in this time. but if not it doesn't matter. if your attitude is still to go on the defensive then all i can say is you can't help the hopeless.

[BeefyG]

1. Why the cloudiness?
2. Why the green water?
3. Why the white on the rock?

Because you have stuff in there that you shouldn't. Btw, thanks this thread has been hilarious!

[soymilk]

I don't know where in my post i asked what shouldn't i have in my tank but if you say so feel free to change my words as you please. I really couldn't care less what i should or shouldn't have in my tank what i beleive this post asked was...
1. Why the cloudiness?
2. Why the green water?
3. Why the white on the rock?
When you can copy and paste me a part of my post that asks what i should have and what i shouldn't have i'll "chill". Deal?
Whether he's knowledgable or not i want my questions answered not my style knit-picked. I still have yet to have ANY problems with this algae and to be honest i think it's complete crap that I *NEED* to take any drastic measures. Water stats are still 0, cycle is over. I have algae-fix and i'll just wait the time out rather than "OMG GET RID OF EVERYTHING!"

By the way soy, go celebrate 2 clowns were added. a long tentacle is next.

Honesty, we have nothing to celebrate for. Your attitude towards marine life is atrocious. It's people like you that there is now regulations and legislation being put into place to ban the export of marine life out of Hawaii. It also shows your maturity level. I get nothing from helping out or answering questions. I only want to share my experiences so that others don't have to make the mistakes I have.

Also let me explain a few things about the nitrogen cycle. Bacteria consume ammonia and turn it into nitrite, different bacteria turn nitrite to nitrate. There is not much that consume nitrate. Only anaerobic and certain other probiotic bacteria can consume nitrate. But those can never really keep up at the same rate as the bacteria that consume nh4 and no2. That's why I know you're lying through your teeth. Everyone sees an appreciable amount of nitrate build up after a cycle. Anyone saying nitrate 0 is almost always full of it.

Fish is fine, they are hardy. The can still live in waters of nitrate levels as high as 100ppm. Its because you chose to mess with anemones, that are very sensitive to change. In most cases they become stresses in nitrate levels as low as 20-30ppm. LTA live on the sand and need 3-4 inches of substrate to properly attach to the bottom of the tank. They also grow big and sting the crap outta everything. So lta anemone + 2 condy ..... And two false clowns .

So knock yourself out man. Stuff as much junk in there as you want with no regards to your pet's safety and well being. On a side note, I'm going to get a dog but lock him up in a tiny dog house. Imma of coarse gonna overfeed him. But f you if you wanna tell me I can't. Because I'm a man now, I wear big people pants.

[nightster]

Man this has been fun to read, some people don't understand.

[myjohnson]

Everyone play nice. No personal attacks.

This thread has a lot of good info on it so I'm not going to delete anything (at this time).

[278923]

Okay, for starters when i say 0 i mean almost non existant. Why would i lie about my stats? As if my questions would be answered correctly with me lying about stats. For that matter why don't i go to the doctor wants flu meds and tell him i have inflammation and irritation of my penis i'd get the same results, an incorrect diagnosis. You're not the brightest if you think people search for help while lying about the situation.

[soymilk]

Good luck on your tank man.

On a side note, people lie to their doctors all the time. Usually to hide something, or in fear of reprocussions. I might not be the brightest in the bunch, but I know people lie all the time. They lie even when they don't need to.

Here's a simple read of why patients lie to their doctors. Perhaps you'd like to use a diff metaphor. Although I am flattered you would compare me to a doctor

http://www.consumerreports.org/health/doctors-hospitals/why-patients-lie-to-their-doctors/overview/why-patients-lie-to-their-doctors.htm

[stephen]

would you be as stubborn with your inflamed penis when your doctor tells you there's certain places you shouldn't put it or would you get mad at him too