75g planted tank journal

[Dien16]

Anything can nip at fins.

[wesleh]

Notice this guy was the only one not eating and then I see this red bump from his belly. It almost looks like it rectum prolapse. Not even sure if it can happen in fish? But anyone has a idea of what it is?



Also after inspecting the fishes, I notice majority of the threadfin have been fin nipped. After some observation, it seems like a few of the rummy nose tetras are guilty of it. What would you do in this case? If I remove them, I worried I might remove the wrong ones.

Also I do not have a quarantine tank yet as I know that is I should do for it.

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[suicune]

Nothing much you can do, Rummy Nose Tetra are more nippy comparing to threadfin rainbow. IME, I came to the conclusion that Threadfin rainbow can only be kept with absolutely nice, mild fish like neon tetra and maybe those other small rainbow fish. They are not easy to keep.

[wesleh]

Nothing much you can do, Rummy Nose Tetra are more nippy comparing to threadfin rainbow. IME, I came to the conclusion that Threadfin rainbow can only be kept with absolutely nice, mild fish like neon tetra and maybe those other small rainbow fish. They are not easy to keep.

Well that sucks :( I hate to see my rainbows with those nipped fins. I really thought the rummy was one of the top mildest tetras.

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[wesleh]

I'm thinking the red bump on the rainbow is a wound maybe? It's not eating and has been hiding.

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[aquabee]

That looks like a female threadfin. Could it be a distended tube?


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[wesleh]

That looks like a female threadfin. Could it be a distended tube?


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Hmm, I never seen what a distended tube really looks like so I'm not sure. But the fish is about 1"-1.5" looks like a juvenile still compared to the bigger females that I have.

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[aquabee]

If you don't have too many live plants, shrimp, and snails, I'd recommend adding Epsom salt to the water, or aquarium salt at 1 tbsp per gallon. Should help. But half of them that have distended tubes still end up dying. :(


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[wesleh]

If you don't have too many live plants, shrimp, and snails, I'd recommend adding Epsom salt to the water, or aquarium salt at 1 tbsp per gallon. Should help. But half of them that have distended tubes still end up dying. :(


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What's the reasoning for the live plants, shrimp, and snails? I do have plants, not heavily planted like I want it yet. I had 16 amanos but I only see like 3-4 at a time, so not actually sure how many there are now. And I have about 13 nerite snails. That sucks to know :/

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[wesleh]

Swimming at the top. Does not look good for her at all.



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[aquabee]

Plants, snails, and shrimp (invertebrates in general) don't do well in salted water. Plants can handle it for a short time though.
Yeah, she's not looking too great but she may turn around. Even if she doesn't make it though, at least you know it's probably not infectious and your other fish should be ok. Good luck!


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[mistahoo]

What's the reasoning for the live plants, shrimp, and snails? I do have plants, not heavily planted like I want it yet. I had 16 amanos but I only see like 3-4 at a time, so not actually sure how many there are now. And I have about 13 nerite snails. That sucks to know :/

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Salt harms live plants and snails. Shrimp not so much, but they are affected as well because when you add salt it affects the chemistry of the water quickly, and they're much more sensitive than fish. Epsom salt however will not harm plants or snails in anyway as it is not salt (NaCl) it is Magnesium Sulfate (MgSO4, which is not salt). It can still kill shrimp (mostly the more sensitive ones like bee shrimp and sulawesi) because again, it affects the water chemistry quickly and increases the TDS.

[mistahoo]

Think of back in Biology class. Salt (NaCl) is hypertonic and will absorb water from the plant cells, since it has a higher osmotic pressure, causing them to become damaged. I don't know if you've ever looked at a leaf or plant under a microscope, but basically the cell walls shrivel when you put salt on them. But when you add water, the cells are nice and plump. Tried the same experiment with Epsom salt (MgSO4) and it didn't do anything. Same concept goes for your aquatic plants. Also, Epsom salt is used by many as fertilizer. It even says it is a plant fertilizer on almost all Epsom salt bags. I add it ever so often to my 20gal Long and 10gal because one has sand the other doesn't and I don't dose anything. It helps get the plants some Magnesium though it isn't necessarily needed as that stuff is already in the water and regular water changes will keep the levels high enough.

Edit: So basically, to shorten that up, add some epsom salt lol. It won't harm your livestock since you don't have any really sensitive shrimp. It may help the fish or it may not. It's up to the fish to decide to continue or not.

[wesleh]

Lol thanks for all the info! Great info to know for the future. I more then likely will not treat it since its not likely she'll make.

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[aquabee]

Keep us posted.


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